Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

OH yes, and don't forget having to constantly look at the ground and not what you're actually doing because the timer will be done by the time your shitty pathing will get to the loot. I'd rather be concentrating on what I'm fighting but NOOO HARDCORE LOOT YALL can't have instanced loot that makes some fucking sense.

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shifted1119 wrote:

The current loot system is shitty as fuck. It ruins partying. People are running off from the group to try and kill solo for items and running around trying to ninja instead of actually fighting.

Bump up the damn timers at least. Are you serious with that 3 seconds shit?

There are four fucking people surrounding it like vultures spam clicking it anyways, so it's not like you can even get near it to pick it up.

"Oh some people like it it's a mixed opinion". BULLSHIT. The only people who like it are the ones who get more than their fair share. It's a no brainer.

But...but...thats HARDCORE MAN! *roll eyes*

Yeah, the current loot system is garbage. Every day there are more and more people that group up for the first time, see how terrible it is, and never group with random people again. Im sure there are people that group up, think "hot damn, I can be an asshole!" and love it too...but those people are going to be like that no matter what.

Simple fix, that is brought up over and over is to give the group creator the CHOICE. Simple...but noooo that would piss all over the divine vision that this game has...please. The loot system is about has "hardcore" as alt+f4 to avoid death in a HC league.

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Leeway wrote:

OH yes, and don't forget having to constantly look at the ground and not what you're actually doing because the timer will be done by the time your shitty pathing will get to the loot. I'd rather be concentrating on what I'm fighting but NOOO HARDCORE LOOT YALL can't have instanced loot that makes some fucking sense.

I love this post...

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iamstryker wrote:

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Leeway wrote:

OH yes, and don't forget having to constantly look at the ground and not what you're actually doing because the timer will be done by the time your shitty pathing will get to the loot. I'd rather be concentrating on what I'm fighting but NOOO HARDCORE LOOT YALL can't have instanced loot that makes some fucking sense.

I love this post...

yea me too! I cant stop laughing at you halirous fucking babies. LOL! what a riot.

How would those who only like instanced loot do in Diablo 2? It was true FFA, yet people partied together all the time.

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Leeway wrote:

... they steal your loot...

It's not "Your loot". It's loot, on the ground. That means it's everyone's loot. Until someone picks it up. Then it's either theirs or your loot. Is this concept so hard to grasp?

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madicen wrote:

Simple fix, that is brought up over and over is to give the group creator the CHOICE. Simple...but noooo that would piss all over the divine vision that this game has...please. The loot system is about has "hardcore" as alt+f4 to avoid death in a HC league.

How many leaders actually lead their group?
How many times does the leader change?
What happens when they change?
What if I wanted instanced loot and the new leader wants FFA?
What if mid-instance, the leader changes the settings?

My point: There are lots of problems with that model.

It's not really supposed to be "hardcore". It's supposed to do a multitude of things.

1. Interaction between players. (Instanced loot would not do this)
2. Make the game harder. (More competition = more difficulty, especially when people get stuff)
3. Make the game fun. (This is based on the 2nd thing. Because this game is directed at players who are looking for difficulty. That's the player base.)

Now, I guarantee you that if they had done this right, and you could collect loot even if another player were standing on top of it, and there was no name on the timer, then there'd be less than 1/2 the current amount of people complaining.

They wouldn't feel entitled to random loot on the ground, and they wouldn't feel screwed due to game mechanics that interfere with one another.

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SkittlesAreYum wrote:

How would those who only like instanced loot do in Diablo 2? It was true FFA, yet people partied together all the time.

I... I think I love you. :)

This is my point from above. If we could get loot even if people were on it, and there wasn't a name on the timer, everyone would be chill about FFA.

That, and we all know GGG would be far more willing to change their game than the makers of D2. Especially something kinda big like this.

But really, the timers are too short.

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VideoGeemer wrote:

But really, the timers are too short.

But really, it's not your loot until it's in your inventory.

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SkittlesAreYum wrote:

How would those who only like instanced loot do in Diablo 2? It was true FFA, yet people partied together all the time.

Diablo 2? lmao. I did fine in d2 hardcore. Over 10 99 toons. Everyone just used pickit. Plus no one I every knew partied in d2 to find loot. People only partied to get exp or rush. Magic find group? Why would you every magic find a in a group in d2.
This FFA loot system "cuttthroat" is old and dumb. It doesn't do anything for the game. I guess GGG will see this when more people quit playing, but it will be to late by then. My uncle just quit the game and gave me his account. I guess I win and loose.

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grubworm wrote:

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SkittlesAreYum wrote:

How would those who only like instanced loot do in Diablo 2? It was true FFA, yet people partied together all the time.

Diablo 2? lmao. I did fine in d2 hardcore. Over 10 99 toons. Everyone just used pickit. Plus no one I every knew partied in d2 to find loot. People only partied to get exp or rush. Magic find group? Why would you every magic find a in a group in d2.
This FFA loot system "cuttthroat" is old and dumb. It doesn't do anything for the game. I guess GGG will see this when more people quit playing, but it will be to late by then. My uncle just quit the game and gave me his account. I guess I win and loose.

So you never did Baal or Mephisto runs to get loot? Your loss I guess...