Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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xXSylarXx wrote:

The loot-system is realy bad.

I have 2 chars on 70+ now and i think about to stop playing that game because of that loot-system.

Atm i have some friends i play with (only 2), but when they leave, what should i do them?

Grouping with random people isn't an option for me.
I play because of the loot. Thats my motivation.
In a random group, i dont get any loot, because im am a Range-DD...

So -> no motivation for playing...

GGG, i have realy no idear why you stick on such a real BAD loot-system?
Give us the option to choose what we want!

I also play only ranged lately, and strangely I don’t have any problems getting loot that falls with my name before others get it. Maybe I just have a better connection? ~66 ms latency average-ish. I do always watch what falls and usually try to have 30%+ run speed if possible.

Do you guys think that HC is different? I mean, when I'm running a lv 70+ char in a map with two other strangers - I think it’s FAR more likely that they will not try and take my loot, possibly because we are depending on each other to stay alive? If I get pissed off that someone just took an item I wanted, I could easily choke and decide not to throw a decoy totem or direct fire to help and possibly even kill them if I lead some baddies in their direction "accidently". Just as they could do the same to me, and I fear death much more than losing a good item…

The loot system as is - works fine and provides for many diverse situations.

I have played in groups where everyone grabs what they can as fast as they can - and it can be fun. (At least you know what you’re in for!) Other times I join the "no ninja" games and for the most part, they very rarely have to kick anyone... I also play with friends were we all try and one-up each other by being more generous and have actually gotten into fights about who will take the damn chaos orb that fell when nobody saw the name.

I'll tell you honestly, I cringe at the idea of having party leader options hard coded in the game, and for many reasons –one being that the party leader changes often in pub games, do they adjust the “loot rules” to suit them? Very often, the “party leader” is NOT actually leading the party at all anyway. I like to play the ‘no ninja’ labeled games from time to time also, and I respect the defined rules, but I very much like to reserve my right to change my mind if I find that the people I am with are assholes or not helping fighting or whatnot.

I also have some bad memories of when I play D3 and saw masses of lechers that “kinda-sorta” help fight but were mostly there to follow the better players and just collect loot. (this can still happen in PoE, but you can see it easily and stop it) In PoE I feel I have more freedom and the experience is more immersive having loot be a collective experience. There is suspense, urgency, and something to pay attention to other then just targeting monsters – without short timer- FFA loot I think this game would lose a huge chunk of appeal to me and many other players who have already adjusted to this system.