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Elynole wrote:
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killbilly wrote:
lol ? i quoted your sentece which was totally clueless and camouflaged rage.. and judging someone who's mother language isnt' english doesnt' make you look cooler or better...here is what i say "grow up". In the end your message was clueless and only to epeen you 1000$ donation...like we care
you original message was the 1000$ blatant and clueless claim
Name calling and assumptions, yet I'm the one that needs to grow up. Hmm, sad really.
Why is it that everyone goes straight for how much someone has donated when disagreeing with another on these forums? I never brought such up, it has no effect on my opinion whatsoever, and just makes the accuser look ignorant.
ok yes assumptions...for the history i will quote your original message here so everyone can judge if i was right or wrong
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Elynole wrote:
Lets see if we can get 1,000 pages of QQ.
When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself
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Posted bykillbilly#2346on Feb 13, 2013, 10:30:55 AM
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killbilly wrote:
ok yes assumptions...for the history i will quote your original message here so everyone can judge if i was right or wrong
In jest, if you look back and had actually read this thread from the beginning you'd see that I've posted such in jest with different milestones. Unfortunately, I cannot help your aggressive nature to take everything as literal.
You still hadn't answered the question though, why is it that you go straight for someone's support for GGG when it had never been mentioned nor has nothing to do with having an opinion based on feedback? Do you not encourage support for this game?
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Posted byElynole#2906on Feb 13, 2013, 10:33:40 AMAlpha Member
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Because a loot option is just a bad idea IMHO.
Considering so many people seem to not understand that they'll get less loot than solo play in an instanced group setting, I don't really think many of you know what you want.
All that would lead to is the same BS in every other instanced game. There's not enough loot dropping posts, when in fact, tons are dropping.
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Posted bySL4Y3R#7487on Feb 13, 2013, 10:34:37 AMBanned
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Elynole wrote:
You still hadn't answered the question though, why is it that you go straight for someone's support for GGG when it had never been mentioned nor has nothing to do with having an opinion based on feedback? Do you not encourage support for this game?
because you are a diamond supporter you should be more carefull when you post messages like this...
ofc i encourage support, i already do that myself.
Calling QQers and carebears all this people posting here just destroys your supportive nature...
i call clueless only the ones that reproduce the sentence i spoilered before not everyone...and yes i "hit" much harder (i admint i am aggresive now) because i am really really fed up listening blatant claims and clueless facts
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Posted bykillbilly#2346on Feb 13, 2013, 10:42:57 AM
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I still don't see why instanced needs to be less loot than solo. I would like to know other than "Well FFA has less loot so the others need less loot as well".
Even if instanced absolutely has to have less loot just like FFA so what? If that's what people will enjoy then it may as well be available.
To those of you continuing to claim that this is about making the game easier. You don't know what your talking about.
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Posted byiamstryker#5952on Feb 13, 2013, 10:45:22 AM
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Because a loot option is just a bad idea IMHO.
Considering so many people seem to not understand that they'll get less loot than solo play in an instanced group setting, I don't really think many of you know what you want.
All that would lead to is the same BS in every other instanced game. There's not enough loot dropping posts, when in fact, tons are dropping.
A hidden instanced system is not the only option on the table. The current timer system is instanced in some form. What I expect the devs to do is to make magic and white fully FFA and increase the timer for gear > magic. This change would not change the total number of items dropped on the screen.
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Posted bywrathmar#4456on Feb 13, 2013, 10:45:30 AM
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SL4Y3R wrote:
Because a loot option is just a bad idea IMHO.
Considering so many people seem to not understand that they'll get less loot than solo play in an instanced group setting, I don't really think many of you know what you want.
All that would lead to is the same BS in every other instanced game. There's not enough loot dropping posts, when in fact, tons are dropping.
see elynol? like this "fact" of why IL is bad (?)
i will be nice to you slayer
IL must AT LEAST provide the same QUANTINY as solo play....(instanced loot to yourself)
believe me if i see a post with loot complain i will rage fight them with no tomorrow..i ONLY solo, i NEVER saw a loot pinata, in fact some ledge/dock/fellshrine runs where FULL blues but i do not care...cause i LIKE farming i JUST NEED company (and no my friend mock me when they see me play PoE..cba to explain them)..
the looting system and the conversetion here is not about the loot itself but for the ENFORCED hostile social pvp element in the PvE experience
edit: NOONE heres wants handholding, free loot in the ground, epix in the mailbox etc...
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Posted bykillbilly#2346on Feb 13, 2013, 10:57:37 AM
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killbilly wrote:
see elynol? like this "fact" of why IL is bad (?)
i will be nice to you slayer
IL must AT LEAST provide the same QUANTINY as solo play....(instanced loot to yourself)
believe me if i see a post with loot complain i will rage fight them with no tomorrow..i ONLY solo, i NEVER saw a loot pinata, in fact some ledge/dock/fellshrine runs where FULL blues but i do not care...cause i LIKE farming i JUST NEED company (and no my friend mock me when they see me play PoE..cba to explain them)..
the looting system and the conversetion here is not about the loot itself but for the ENFORCED hostile social pvp element in the PvE experience
I solo, so I already have instanced loot.
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Posted byElynole#2906on Feb 13, 2013, 11:01:18 AMAlpha Member
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wrathmar wrote:
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Because a loot option is just a bad idea IMHO.
Considering so many people seem to not understand that they'll get less loot than solo play in an instanced group setting, I don't really think many of you know what you want.
All that would lead to is the same BS in every other instanced game. There's not enough loot dropping posts, when in fact, tons are dropping.
A hidden instanced system is not the only option on the table. The current timer system is instanced in some form. What I expect the devs to do is to make magic and white fully FFA and increase the timer for gear > magic. This change would not change the total number of items dropped on the screen.
Yes, your idea is compatible with mine:
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My personal suggestion is to give a MUCH bigger delay on items which are reserved for you. I would suggest 10 seconds. If someone wants that item and it's given to you (but you don't want it) there shouldn't be a problem for the other guy to wait 10 seconds until he can take it.
Another option would be: COMPLETELY reserve it for the one who has the take-right, but giving this guy the option to UNLOCK the reserved item for everyone. For axample:
- Rare item drops
- The name is written below the item to show "this item is reserved for *Name*"
- The guy who has the take-right can click on the item to take it, or can use strg+click to UNLOCK it for everyone.
- If the guy is NOT interested, other people can ask for unlock or can wait 20 seconds for automatic unlock.
That is PLENTY of time to ensure that the one with the take-right gets his item and still ensures, that EVERYONE has the chance to get it, if the one with the take-right doesn't take or unlock it.
This way everyone can easily get blues and whites (no timers), while the items >magic, which have a timer, have like 20 seconds and the one with take-right can unlock the items for everyone, or just take his item.
Simple as that and it wouldn't reduce the amount of items dropped, it would just change the lootmechanic in terms of "who gets what". Of course, someone that brings more rarity/quantity within the party should have a higher chance of a countdown as someone, who has no rarity/quantity (still he has the chance to get a timer, this chance will just be significantly lower then).
This would just be a fair system and no one can complain, besides all those FFA supporters with no arguments.
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Posted byAceNightfire#0980on Feb 13, 2013, 11:03:32 AM
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Elynole wrote:
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killbilly wrote:
see elynol? like this "fact" of why IL is bad (?)
i will be nice to you slayer
IL must AT LEAST provide the same QUANTINY as solo play....(instanced loot to yourself)
believe me if i see a post with loot complain i will rage fight them with no tomorrow..i ONLY solo, i NEVER saw a loot pinata, in fact some ledge/dock/fellshrine runs where FULL blues but i do not care...cause i LIKE farming i JUST NEED company (and no my friend mock me when they see me play PoE..cba to explain them)..
the looting system and the conversetion here is not about the loot itself but for the ENFORCED hostile social pvp element in the PvE experience
I solo, so I already have instanced loot.
me2 lol :p i havent' enter a single group not even for vaal cruel in where i lost my lvl55 shadow...i prefer to start over than to join a group...
but this cant' stop us from pointing the faults of this system (FFA) and ask for a solution..
in short
SUPPORT GGG....we are not enemies of GGG
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Posted bykillbilly#2346on Feb 13, 2013, 11:06:41 AM
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