Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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wrathmar wrote:

The Devs personally like FFA looting and they thought that the player base would too. This ~500 page long threads prove that they were wrong.

I have read quite a bit from this thread, and there are many people who defend to system and are against change. It's quite interesting and you should try reading it too.

I've played with my friends and most of the time (especially when lots of items drop) the timer goes out before we can clearly see who it's allocated to, and then we end up arguing who gets what. And that's not good.

In random FFA, there's only one choice, click click click or leave with nothing.

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Vitacia wrote:

No.
Play solo -> no fight over loot
Play with friends -> no fight over loot
Play with random players -> fight over loot

Why is it good that it is that way?
It makes absolutely no sense.

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Vitacia wrote:

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eliasfrost wrote:

But there is no option, you must fight to get the loot. You do have the choice to not do anything when the yellow drops, but not the option, an option follow two or more alternatives, in this current system, there's only one.

No.
Play solo -> no fight over loot
Play with friends -> no fight over loot
Play with random players -> fight over loot


There are two viable ways of not having to fight over loot. Try them and see for yourself.

Flawed argument is flawed ..is if you don't like current FFA system..yet you are playing multiplayer game and you have no friends online..you can just suck it up? Stupid became even more stupid..

But lets see what devs will think about..as someone above said.. it's not question anymore if something will be changed .. question is.. "how"..we will see.

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Vitacia wrote:

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wrathmar wrote:

The Devs personally like FFA looting and they thought that the player base would too. This ~500 page long threads prove that they were wrong.

I have read quite a bit from this thread, and there are many people who defend to system and are against change. It's quite interesting and you should try reading it too.

If so many people are defending it, then why not add the option? If a LOT of people are defending the system, then they will sure continue to play FFA. If they turn to instanced loot then I would question their initial opinion in the first place.

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ManiaCCC wrote:

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skarrmania wrote:

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ManiaCCC wrote:

What is really puzzling me..why pro-FFA guys are just avoiding questions left and right..and they best arguments are flawed to the bones... Noone..noone answered even the simplest question with nothing more than "I don't like it" or "you are just lazy"..occasionally, they write something completely absurd..

Huh, simple, for me I like FFA so I can join public parties and ninja your loot. Don't like it? you have two options...play with your friends or play solo.

So you are not against loot options right?

"Loot options"? I like things how they are and would not welcome the change. Don't get me wrong, I rage when someone picks my yellow, but it makes the revenge all the sweeter when someone's exalt drops and I take it.

For all the people that would like to have their name written on the loot, I just don't see why they don't play solo or with people they know.

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Sickness wrote:

Having it both ways doesn't make any sense. Is loot competetion good or not?? One thing says it is, but one thing says it isn't.
Why is there no element of competing against other exiles in single player, if it's so important?

Having it both ways makes perfect sense for me.
Play single player -> get less XP and less loot
Play single player 6boxed -> get same XP and same loot as groups, but immense higher difficulty and no comfort of 5 players helping you killing monsters.

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wrathmar wrote:

The Devs personally like FFA looting and they thought that the player base would too. This ~500 page long threads prove that they were wrong. They tested out different loot options but made the mistake of only testing in the Alpha realm which has a vastly different economy and community.

GGG has been very good about listening to player feedback. The game is in BETA it is foolish to think that it will not change.

Nope they aren't wrong, atm it's just the wrong people trying the game. As soon those are gone the game will be fine and fun.

Adjust the timer maybe or even hide other players loot as long the timer is running and it should be enough.

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eliasfrost wrote:

If so many people are defending it, then why not add the option? If a LOT of people are defending the system, then they will sure continue to play FFA. If they turn to instanced loot then I would question their initial opinion in the first place.

I answered this already. Please read my previous posts, because it is very tiring for me to keep repeating myself. Use the search functions or click through the last few pages, whatever suits you.

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skarrmania wrote:

"Loot options"? I like things how they are and would not welcome the change. Don't get me wrong, I rage when someone picks my yellow, but it makes the revenge all the sweeter when someone's exalt drops and I take it.

For all the people that would like to have their name written on the loot, I just don't see why they don't play solo or with people they know.

again..WHY..please..WHY you are against loot options? It's not like someone will get your favorite think away from you.. FFA loot option will be still here..and you can play it in your way with other players who like it that way..People enjoy games differently ..and instanced loot doesn't provide any advantages..it has own disadvantages too..but if people want it that way? why not??

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Ginfress wrote:

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wrathmar wrote:

The Devs personally like FFA looting and they thought that the player base would too. This ~500 page long threads prove that they were wrong. They tested out different loot options but made the mistake of only testing in the Alpha realm which has a vastly different economy and community.

GGG has been very good about listening to player feedback. The game is in BETA it is foolish to think that it will not change.

Nope they aren't wrong, atm it's just the wrong people trying the game. As soon those are gone the game will be fine and fun.

Adjust the timer maybe or even hide other players loot as long the timer is running and it should be enough.

In business.there are not wrong customers.. they are just customers..I guarantee GGG care about them..they don't want them to leave.. they already said it three times..they are discussing other options.. They mentioned it everytime on different places..changes will be made..but we just don't know how drastic it will be. They are in though position tbh..they had their own vision and many many people don't agree with it.. it's always very hard to go against own vision and against what you considered the best for the game..so they have to think about something, what will keep their vision and make these "whiners" happy.