We should talk about a possible League restart
" Noone cares how much a mirror is worth to justify them playing a league or not. These are items people dont obtain ever in their play throughs. Across thousands of hours. If your whole premise, is that divines ratio to mirror is higher than usual, and you want a league restart because of it. Then thats fine. But it is a meaningless statistic for nearly every player that plays this game. Mash the clean
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" Sounds like you run out of substantive arguments to refute what Mash is saying, and instead of admitting the other side has a point you give up and wail. If you go after people personally like that message, it gets removed. Surprise! The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge. Last edited by ArtCrusade#4438 on Dec 31, 2025, 8:15:03 AM
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" No message from me to Mash got deleted. As i said im not answering him anymore and i explained why divines to mirror is a proper metric. The Higher Divines to Mirrors are the less Value divines have. Its an indicator for how healthy the economy is. Also what is that quote?? Its a different person alltogether. Also please stay civil. Why so aggressive? Just because you disagree with me? “The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame.” Last edited by Alzucard#2422 on Dec 31, 2025, 8:18:44 AM
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The conversion rate between divines and mirrors BARELY matters for the regular player and it's not useful as a metric at all, unless you are operating in the top 0.1% of the economy.
The price of mirrors affects high-end crafting, mirror-tier item trading and wealthy players converting to permanent value stores. And a tiny tit-bit of flipping I suppose, but that is speculative and again, doesn't matter for the regular player. That is simply not an economic layer that 99.9% of the playerbase ever interact with. You will almost never own a mirror. Divines are valuable on their own, but their value does not depend on mirrors. Their demand is not affected by people's need for mirrors, but by supply/demand for crafting. The relationship between Divines and Mirrors has no trickle down effect to the level of buying gear upgrades, purchasing mid-tier items or crafting your own build. It only ever matters when you do one of the things I mentioned at the start. What's more interesting to look at is the Exalt to Divine ratio where we see huge inflation due to hardly any sinks existing for Exalts and a lot of them dropping from Temples. If you wanted to complain about one thing, then it should be that. Everything else you bring forth just shows you don't understand the macro economy in PoE2 The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
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" I dont think you udnerstand what a high Divine to Mirror Price means. Divines are in a crazy inflation right now. Divine supply is huge. Solely because of Temple. If the Divine to Mirror Price is high it also means that other Items that are traded for Divines also cost more divines. The market adjusts to the supply of divines. You are wrong that Divine to Mirror Price has no effect Equipment. Thats just wrong. The higher the supply the more stuff costs. Its as simple as that. Furthermore the Divine to exalt ratio is negative!!!! Divines get Cheaper if you buy them for Exalts.  “The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame.” Last edited by Alzucard#2422 on Dec 31, 2025, 9:01:06 AM
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" You have this backwards Divines are actually losing value. Mirrors are the thing that is gaining value. Mash the clean
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This would be usefull information if divines were acquired by farming them. But the average player does not get a lot of divines by farming them. They get them by selling stuff.
This means: if divs are worth less because of inflation you will need more to buy stuff. But you also will get more by selling stuff. For the average player who doesnt farm divs this is a non issue. Funny enough only the poeple who farm divs by running the temple get screwed over because the divs they farm are worth less every day. The average player who sells stuff to get divs is not affected at all. Last edited by lol49#6377 on Dec 31, 2025, 9:05:29 AM
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" Yes that what it means if you write "Divines are in a crazy inflation right now." “The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame.”
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" You seem to struggle with what inflation means. The only thing gaining value right now. At least with your talking points. Is the price of a mirror. Divines however, are losing value right now. So divines are, 100%, not in inflation at the moment. And as of the patch, have actually lost value. This is all available data through ninja, and in game as well. Mash the clean
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" Thats a pretty good point. I really like to farm maps. Thats a thing that is completely obsolete. Its not worth doing. I want map farming to be at least decent. The people who run temple get enough divines and loot drops to sustain the inflation. You get 100 divines per temple. Only thing that should be better to make currency is crafting. Grinding to sell drops is probably not more profitable than temple, it relies a lot on RNG. Temple is a steady supply, which makes it more reliable. “The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame.”
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