Nothing can save 0.2 update anymore

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Kerchunk#7797 wrote:

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NoyAvargel#6918 wrote:

the vast majority of GGG income and that includes the money required for poe 2 and for the constant "patches" during 0.2 is from us Loyal poe 1 players

Isn't it just so very easy to make bold claims with confidence when you know that anyone who wants to argue against you will have the same amount of data and evidence that you had to make the claim in the first place which is absolutely not any at all?

Like once again I genuinely don't understand the long game with you guys. You constantly make these bold, sweeping proclamations when you know full well everyone reading your post will know that you have absolutely no way to know whether what you're saying is true.

I won't make any claims one way or the other, but what I will say is that IF the vast majority of GGG's revenue were still coming from PoE1 diehards, then their decision and announcement during 0.1 to reallocate resources to the sequel makes very little sense. The only way that decision does make sense is if the early revenue numbers on PoE2's launch made it very clear to them (and Tencent) that PoE2 was a more reliable source of revenue for them moving forward.

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Kerchunk#7797 wrote:

I won't make any claims one way or the other, but what I will say is that IF the vast majority of GGG's revenue were still coming from PoE1 diehards, then their decision and announcement during 0.1 to reallocate resources to the sequel makes very little sense. The only way that decision does make sense is if the early revenue numbers on PoE2's launch made it very clear to them (and Tencent) that PoE2 was a more reliable source of revenue for them moving forward.

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

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Kerchunk#7797 wrote:

I won't make any claims one way or the other, but what I will say is that IF the vast majority of GGG's revenue were still coming from PoE1 diehards, then their decision and announcement during 0.1 to reallocate resources to the sequel makes very little sense. The only way that decision does make sense is if the early revenue numbers on PoE2's launch made it very clear to them (and Tencent) that PoE2 was a more reliable source of revenue for them moving forward.

Bruh... GGG's poor decisions, that don't make sense, are a poor argument.
Furthermore, if you think that PoE2 made it clear to them to be a more reliable source of income... idk how to tell you... but that's bonkers.
PoE2 EA had paid access and only 5 months of "income" to show, compared to the income of PoE1 with more data than a quarter and a half.

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NoyAvargel#6918 wrote:

its mind blowing that people who are new here think they know how GGG developed!

GGG unlike blizard are not quick cash grabbers altho poe 2 early access does look that way.. but atleast to me and i know that its the case for many others. .. supporting GGG is about trust. . and it is a trust that they actually and rightfully earned by being a great company great developers that for most part kept their promises . . its that sensitive trust that even when something is wrong or not fun we always trusted them to make it better and fix it.. so we continued to support even during bad leagues or patches.. because we knew its ok GGG gonna fix it and they always did ! even early in poe 2 i came in with really open minded tried to love the game ... i kept supporting and kept rebuying the 480 and 240 usd packs over and over to share keys. . when that trust is broekn and players dont view GGG to be the same company that they always have been .. . im sure they would regret it. maybe they sold alot of EA copies but right now player base of poe 2 is smaller than poe 1 and many of them still probably will quit. .

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Sickonius#7883 wrote:

As I remember Blizzard was one of industry leaders and one of best if not the best company at one point. They also loved their playerbase. They also listened to feedback. They also had players in first place when developing games. So what happened? And you think same thing cannot happen to GGG?

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Sickonius#7883 wrote:

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NoyAvargel#6918 wrote:

its mind blowing that people who are new here think they know how GGG developed!

GGG unlike blizard are not quick cash grabbers altho poe 2 early access does look that way.. but atleast to me and i know that its the case for many others. .. supporting GGG is about trust. . and it is a trust that they actually and rightfully earned by being a great company great developers that for most part kept their promises . . its that sensitive trust that even when something is wrong or not fun we always trusted them to make it better and fix it.. so we continued to support even during bad leagues or patches.. because we knew its ok GGG gonna fix it and they always did ! even early in poe 2 i came in with really open minded tried to love the game ... i kept supporting and kept rebuying the 480 and 240 usd packs over and over to share keys. . when that trust is broekn and players dont view GGG to be the same company that they always have been .. . im sure they would regret it. maybe they sold alot of EA copies but right now player base of poe 2 is smaller than poe 1 and many of them still probably will quit. .

As I remember Blizzard was one of industry leaders and one of best if not the best company at one point. They also loved their playerbase. They also listened to feedback. They also had players in first place when developing games. So what happened? And you think same thing cannot happen to GGG?

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

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Naharez#3496 wrote:

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

That's not how GGG's funding works. These packs are called "SUPPORTER packs" because they are used to support the development, and the content in them is GGG "thanking" the supporters for doing so.

Is that stated somewhere?

Bruh... I know you are desperate, but stop.

To your bait and switch question:

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Raycheetah#7060 wrote:

Here is a timeline, with video documentation, of what GGG told us would happen with PoE 4.0 (and, to anyone who finds this useful, please, don't hesitate to share it around).

At Exilecon 2019, GGG announced PoE 4.0 as an upcoming expansion:

https://youtu.be/gM5SFgYbTaY?si=GAVHkUS57-GGN7tg&t=3456

Chris talked about PoE's history and future, and revealed that PoE 4.0 started development in 2017 (two years before Exilecon 2019).

https://youtu.be/mcd9BfVw7hQ?si=cBYDRCLzk6-XWiEc&t=278

Chris talked about not making PoE 2 a separate game because it would "split the community." Promised that PoE would continue to be supported, alongside the new campaign.

Then, four years later, at Exilecon 2023, GGG announced that PoE 2 would be a separate game:

https://www.youtube.com/live/Vvah-HfhkYc?si=FnAZwI-4ofb2x2TZ&t=7507

...And thus fulfilled Chris premonition about splitting the community.

In an interview later, Jonathan revealed just how long GGG had known that PoE 2 was going to be a separate game:

https://www.youtube.com/live/XE3MAFGDzWw?feature=share&t=14753

4:05:53 Octavian: "At what point in the development of POE 2 did you realize the game was too different and needed to be different from POE 1?" Jonathan: "So to me it was right after the Act 2 reveal - soon after that."

The Path of Exile II Act 2 reveal was posted on 08.04.2021. GGG knew that PoE II was going to be a separate game for TWO YEARS, and neglected to tell the players. I'd say we have plenty of cause to be salty about what amounted to a bait and switch!

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rhalbhub#0570 wrote:

Blizz old days is legendary stuff.

Theyll never be that again.

GGG is close to never being to their roots either.

Its sad truth about $ behind the fun we forget that it is the #1 driving factor for the existence of any game.

Sad thing is that when a co. has an amazing product but kills it with Visions.