Nothing can save 0.2 update anymore

What's the problem with the game again?
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Oh get of your high horse. You payed for packs, you got their contents. Your transaction with GGG ended right then and there and they owe you nothing.
That's not how GGG's funding works. These packs are called "SUPPORTER packs" because they are used to support the development, and the content in them is GGG "thanking" the supporters for doing so.


You can spin it however you want to fit your narrative but it's not a kickstarter with promises of "we'll do this if we reach 200k". It specifically says what you get for your "support" and you get it. So unless you didn't get something that was stated in the description of the pack, you got what you payed for and it's up to GGG to spend that money how they want: raise wages, to develop something to please you, try creating something else etc.
Sure. Technically you are right.

But good luck arguing with your long-term supporters over a technicality when you already took their money and trolled them with your bait and switch.
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Sure. Technically you are right.

But good luck arguing with your long-term supporters over a technicality when you already took their money and trolled them with your bait and switch.


What do you mean with bait and switch?
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Naharez#3496 wrote:
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Naharez#3496 wrote:
You just gotta make a thread complaining about 0.2 and you will have a few people jumping on it shouting: "DOOOOOOOM", because at least that's what I hear when I read threads like this.

There are many other threads talking about this already. So I believe this is pointless.
And what's the point of spreading toxic positivity in so many threads?


Same as you.


Care to elaborate?
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Care to elaborate?


I was sleepy when I wrote that.
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Oh get of your high horse. You payed for packs, you got their contents. Your transaction with GGG ended right then and there and they owe you nothing.
That's not how GGG's funding works. These packs are called "SUPPORTER packs" because they are used to support the development, and the content in them is GGG "thanking" the supporters for doing so.


Is that stated somewhere?
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Naharez#3496 wrote:
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That's not how GGG's funding works. These packs are called "SUPPORTER packs" because they are used to support the development, and the content in them is GGG "thanking" the supporters for doing so.


Is that stated somewhere?
Bruh... I know you are desperate, but stop.

To your bait and switch question:
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Here is a timeline, with video documentation, of what GGG told us would happen with PoE 4.0 (and, to anyone who finds this useful, please, don't hesitate to share it around).

At Exilecon 2019, GGG announced PoE 4.0 as an upcoming expansion:

https://youtu.be/gM5SFgYbTaY?si=GAVHkUS57-GGN7tg&t=3456

Chris talked about PoE's history and future, and revealed that PoE 4.0 started development in 2017 (two years before Exilecon 2019).

https://youtu.be/mcd9BfVw7hQ?si=cBYDRCLzk6-XWiEc&t=278

Chris talked about not making PoE 2 a separate game because it would "split the community." Promised that PoE would continue to be supported, alongside the new campaign.

Then, four years later, at Exilecon 2023, GGG announced that PoE 2 would be a separate game:

https://www.youtube.com/live/Vvah-HfhkYc?si=FnAZwI-4ofb2x2TZ&t=7507

...And thus fulfilled Chris premonition about splitting the community.

In an interview later, Jonathan revealed just how long GGG had known that PoE 2 was going to be a separate game:

https://www.youtube.com/live/XE3MAFGDzWw?feature=share&t=14753

4:05:53 Octavian: "At what point in the development of POE 2 did you realize the game was too different and needed to be different from POE 1?" Jonathan: "So to me it was right after the Act 2 reveal - soon after that."

The Path of Exile II Act 2 reveal was posted on 08.04.2021. GGG knew that PoE II was going to be a separate game for TWO YEARS, and neglected to tell the players. I'd say we have plenty of cause to be salty about what amounted to a bait and switch!
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Oh get of your high horse. You payed for packs, you got their contents. Your transaction with GGG ended right then and there and they owe you nothing.
That's not how GGG's funding works. These packs are called "SUPPORTER packs" because they are used to support the development, and the content in them is GGG "thanking" the supporters for doing so.


You can spin it however you want to fit your narrative but it specifically says what you get for your "support" and you get it. So unless you didn't get something that was stated in the description of the pack, you got what you payed for and it's up to GGG to spend that money how they want: raise wages, to develop something to please you, try creating something else etc.



the truth is... you can spin it however you want to fit your narrative.. but at the end of the day. .. the vast majority of GGG income and that includes the money required for poe 2 and for the constant "patches" during 0.2 is from us Loyal poe 1 players who still gives GGG some trust and credit which they built with us in the past years.. . when poe 1 feel screwed bad enough and stop supporting ... you will beg them to support again becuse you would get 0 poe 2 content
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the truth is... you can spin it however you want to fit your narrative.. but at the end of the day. .. the vast majority of GGG income and that includes the money required for poe 2 and for the constant "patches" during 0.2 is from us Loyal poe 1 players who still gives GGG some trust and credit which they built with us in the past years.. . when poe 1 feel screwed bad enough and stop supporting ... you will beg them to support again becuse you would get 0 poe 2 content


Still on your high horse, I see.
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the vast majority of GGG income and that includes the money required for poe 2 and for the constant "patches" during 0.2 is from us Loyal poe 1 players


Isn't it just so very easy to make bold claims with confidence when you know that anyone who wants to argue against you will have the same amount of data and evidence that you had to make the claim in the first place which is absolutely not any at all?

Like once again I genuinely don't understand the long game with you guys. You constantly make these bold, sweeping proclamations when you know full well everyone reading your post will know that you have absolutely no way to know whether what you're saying is true.

I won't make any claims one way or the other, but what I will say is that IF the vast majority of GGG's revenue were still coming from PoE1 diehards, then their decision and announcement during 0.1 to reallocate resources to the sequel makes very little sense. The only way that decision does make sense is if the early revenue numbers on PoE2's launch made it very clear to them (and Tencent) that PoE2 was a more reliable source of revenue for them moving forward.

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