Please make the campaign harder

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Lord Pinkleton#8277 wrote:

Side note, as someone who's done ff14 savage raiding where a 10 minute boss fight incorporating endurance, memory games, and puzzles can literally take some groups multiple weeks of playing 2-3 hours 2-4 times a week before they get a clear...no one wants to do that in a campaign like this; moreover even if it were to be a thing, almost everyone would just overlvl and overgear the fight to the best of their abilities and watch a guide on how to more easily beat it.

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World of Warcraft.

Based on difficulty encounters have different stats and Bosses have different abilities and mechanics to the fights.

League of Legends.

Low elo vs High.

In low elo people dont use the abilities optimally, resulting is missing out on combos, map awareness and kills.
in High elo people optimize their gameplay which results in a game that others thought impossible.

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My point is not about campaign. Theres nothing hard about it. Is a super simple game.

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Lord Pinkleton#8277 wrote:

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My point is not about campaign. Theres nothing hard about it. Is a super simple game.

This entire thread is about making the campaign harder....

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Yes. So? We were on a side topic about difficulty, while in the topic of campaign.

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Lord Pinkleton#8277 wrote:

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Yes. So? We were on a side topic about difficulty, while in the topic of campaign.

So, none of those things you described in your "side topic" about difficulty should ever make their way into the campaign?

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Kodavor#1200 wrote:

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Lord Pinkleton#8277 wrote:

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My point is not about campaign. Theres nothing hard about it. Is a super simple game.

This entire thread is about making the campaign harder....

Yes. So? We were on a side topic about difficulty, while in the topic of campaign.

Campaign/Tutorial has never been hard. Not in 0.1 Not in 0.2 I see no difference from 0.2 release to now in campaign/tutorial. It is as shitty at explaining things as it is in PoE1. So folk arrive in maps clueless.

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Unless you remove the atlass and place the whole endgame is tutorial ... > . <

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I don't understand what you're harping on. You have direct control over the difficulty of the endgame.
You can directly scale the difficulty of both maps via waystone mods + delirium and bosses via the altas passive tree.

You seem to be unable to comprehend that the problem lies somewhere else and that is in the skill balance and the progression curve being way off.

Overperformers need be brought down towards the median whilst underperformers up towards it. The problem is that this community is so rabid towards any changes once they get 'their' build going, that we'll have to wait for it until 0.3.

Then they'll introduce another class/ascendancy/weapon type/whathaveyou without testing it properly and we'll have a rinse repeat.
Do you know why? Because this game is still in early development as far as endgame is concerned. If you want challenge now, go play a mediocre build and jack all the difficulty modifiers to max.

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Kodavor#1200 wrote:

Wat ? Ok, I'm done with morning coffee. Off to work. C ya laters.