"ALSO Fubgun quit SO yea, I quit too."

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imphilxd#4709 wrote:

I think people can't wrap their heads around the game not being poe 1.5.

There's no power creep and endgame is mostly about getting to level 100, a few chase uniques, and maybe some crafting. It's early access, try some different builds.

Everyone just played LS which trivialized the entire game and then complained.

poe ninja has 48% of the playerbase as Huntress, 88% of Huntress as LS.

so no not everyone went LS.

the games endgame is vastly different in terms of progression to what they had in 0.1.0

chasing down Corruption nexus' is fine, but it should have been an in tandem system to award Atlas points, with the old compelte x amount of maps for points.

at current if you dont find a nexus (some people have spent hours looking for them), you make no atalas progression.

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jimbe4mXL#6156 wrote:

Agreed. BUT - if a guy who makes a living off streaming a game, and plays every league for weeks when it comes out, quits this early - it should send a message to the devs that something is clearly wrong with the game. I hope it does.

Well, they are like a girl doing only fans. Or a monkey dressed up with clothes doing tricks. Or street clown. Human statue. Or even a mime.

He is not living of playing a game. Hell no. He is living of entertaining people, who are paying him, because they are incapable of entertaining themselves.

I do not think that GGG should listen neither to streamers, nor to the people who are watching them.

And I think this game would be better without any of those two categories of people... Much better, actually.

And I think it is a mistake to take action, based on literally ANYTHING they say.

Empyrean is like a Grand Master in POE 1 and 2, if he's not playing, that says a thousand words of the disaster that Jonathan created in this season nerves instead of buffing everything else that was underperformance. He's stupid stubborn idea of wanting to make this game a mix with Dark Souls will eventually lead to Tencent telling him what he doesn't likes to put it in polite words. Wish Chris was back and Jonathan gone

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Skellymancer#5263 wrote:

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jimbe4mXL#6156 wrote:

Agreed. BUT - if a guy who makes a living off streaming a game, and plays every league for weeks when it comes out, quits this early - it should send a message to the devs that something is clearly wrong with the game. I hope it does.

Well, they are like a girl doing only fans. Or a monkey dressed up with clothes doing tricks. Or street clown. Human statue. Or even a mime.

He is not living of playing a game. Hell no. He is living of entertaining people, who are paying him, because they are incapable of entertaining themselves.

I do not think that GGG should listen neither to streamers, nor to the people who are watching them.

And I think this game would be better without any of those two categories of people... Much better, actually.

And I think it is a mistake to take action, based on literally ANYTHING they say.

What a take...

By your logic, my feedback becomes invalid when I listen to music and enjoy watching someone else listening to this music? So it doesn't matter how much I know about music, that I play instruments myself? Because I entertained myself with music I and others when they listen to it too?

It's invalid when I watch movies and then look at how others react to the movies I have seen? No matter how much I understand about filmmaking or movies in general? Because I entertained myself with movies, and others who do it too?

The feedback should not be listened to when I read a book and join a book club to see what others thought of it? No matter how much I write myself? Because I entertained myself with literature and others who appreciate it the same way?

I could give examples until the heat death of the universe... feedback does not become invalid/less important because these ppl like to watch others doing what they like too.

I don't need Fubgun or ben or quin or ziz or steelmage to let me know that the end game is boring atm, cause i am there and don't find the rush to do anything there at all, everything feels slog from atlas point grinding (which i think is a good idea with bad execution, citadels are same as always), wanna chase any unique? most are gutted already with the league launch, so...whats in there? grinding divs? for what?

0.1 was fun
0.2 is not

Its clear to almost everyone EXCEPT the devs.

If you having fun, all good, but if 90% of the player are not and saying so then the devs need to take a hard look at 0.2 compared to 0.1 and try to bring the fun back.

For players like me who are L90 and find it not fun at all. We will just
(1) stop playing
(2) spend zero dollars more on the game
(3) write a bad review and move on to another game

People tend to forget this EA is about polishing the game so put in your feedback they need it to balance the game because you paid to test it.

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Skellymancer#5263 wrote:

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jimbe4mXL#6156 wrote:

Agreed. BUT - if a guy who makes a living off streaming a game, and plays every league for weeks when it comes out, quits this early - it should send a message to the devs that something is clearly wrong with the game. I hope it does.

Well, they are like a girl doing only fans. Or a monkey dressed up with clothes doing tricks. Or street clown. Human statue. Or even a mime.

He is not living of playing a game. Hell no. He is living of entertaining people, who are paying him, because they are incapable of entertaining themselves.

I do not think that GGG should listen neither to streamers, nor to the people who are watching them.

And I think this game would be better without any of those two categories of people... Much better, actually.

And I think it is a mistake to take action, based on literally ANYTHING they say.

That is by far the most ignorant and quite frankly retarded opinion I have ever read. If you hate streamers for whatever reason thats your problem. But an opinion doesn't become automatically become invalidated simply because of the profession of the person that voiced it or because of an audience member of a person with said profession voiced it....
On the contrary: With a streamer or an audience member to a streamer you know you at least listen to someone that spends a lot of time with the game in some shape or form. They may not always agree with your opinion and yes sometimes they are outright wrong but their opinion has at least more insight than that of the average Joe where you know nothing about them (like you my friend).
And as for the "GGG would be better off without both streamers and their audiences": This shows that you simply bear a personal dislike to these ppl and dont think rationally at all. A company needs to make profit long term. Long term profit comes from - you may guess it - lots of ppl playing the game. Now who brings more ppl into the game you think? A streamer with a large audience or an average Joe like you? Hm....lets think hard, I know, I know its not ez, take your time...

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Natjur#7205 wrote:

0.1 was fun
0.2 is not

Its clear to almost everyone EXCEPT the devs.

If you having fun, all good, but if 90% of the player are not and saying so then the devs need to take a hard look at 0.2 compared to 0.1 and try to bring the fun back.

For players like me who are L90 and find it not fun at all. We will just
(1) stop playing
(2) spend zero dollars more on the game
(3) write a bad review and move on to another game

+1 This in a nutshell. And one of the main reasons is the crippling of the passive tree, jewels, sockets and endgame items, effectively killing most builds that were possible in 0.1 (and that were FAST in 0.1) and that needed farming beyond LV90 and get items worth several dozen div which gave noticable powerups. Nothing of that is there anymore. And they replaced all of these builds with only one build: LS, which also doesnt need to farm endgame items and destroys everything with very little investment. Guess what most ppl are playing...I wonder why...

A lot of exaggeration in here... They are building on feedback, the game isn't doomed, they are even fixing the game even in 0.2.0. I also find some issues with the patch but chill out, people and streamers taking a break from the patch is fine.

Game isn't doomed.

They are working on it. Streamers will say their opinions which is good, Ziz interview was great even though I do not agree with Ziz on everything. No need to alienate the devs, they are also trying to make good game. Overall this game has a great base with the combat they need to tweak some stuff.

This game will 100% lose some POE1 streamers in POE2 and that is also okay. There are still people playing Overwatch 2 while Marvel Rivals exists because even if they complain about OW2 they still prefer OW2 to Marvel Rivals. Same thing here.