Message from an SSF player: You are disrespecting our time

Plain and simple. Every single mechanic in endgame is at the very best disappointing. There's not a single mechanic in the entire game that excites the player. The best thing you could ever say about anything in endgame is "oh well it doesn't suck quite as much as the rest".

This is your current endgame. At it's very peak, it doesn't suck quite as much as the rest. What the fuck are you doing Grinding Gear Games?

I've played enough of 0.2 now that the overwhelming sensation I have is "disappointment". Everything just feels bad. Nothing is rewarding. You are making the cardinal sin of ARPG design, you are boring the player.


Essemces: a shortcut to identifying that shit you rather filter out of your drop pool anyway. Useless.

Greater Essences: Fake news, these don't exist and when they do, they're too rare to ever matter. Fuck this system, it's terrible.

Omens. These don't exist.

Greater Omens: I don't even know what you call these, they're only ever relevant to the mirror mafia.I have a "whittling" omen in my deferred list, I won't ever use it because I can't be fucking arsed with the 20+ hours of game time you ask of me for this bullshit.

Expedition: I was so excited for these changes. You obviously don't know but Expedition is the absolute most important mechanic for 95% of SSF starter characters in Path of Exile 1.

Recombinator: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....... What purpose is this even supposed to serve? Middling tiers on anything results in... 25% chance at it's very best? And this is supposed to serve as an early to mid tier crafting tool? Give me a fucking break.

Expedition vendors: this is just insulting. I want a refund.

I've been trying to stay level-headed and think of constructive criticism, I've told myself "if it can be fixed with numerical changes, they'll do it" but now I'm done. I don't think you can fix this with numerical changes. You can either tune this to be PoE1 with WASD movement and prettier graphics, or you can reworkd EVERYTHING. I'm losing faith by the minute.
Last bumped on Apr 13, 2025, 3:02:48 AM
pretty angry post but i have to 100% agree on the factual statements there.

i have a strong feeling that ggg isn't currently trying to balance anything and everyone is 100% locked in on making new content, i would dial down on the "we're treating it as a fully released game because the players expect us to"
also if ggg are actually reading the forums maybe give a sign of life once in a while.

myself and others can point at a slew of stuff that needs a 180 turn in direction. at this point i'm not sure if you have competent individuals at the company or just faking it. if you ask for it, i'll give free advice because we all want the game to be great.

BTW you effectively removed ilvl82 maps from the game, how would i ever get a lvl82 mod and use that 5%recombinator gamba if i can't even find 1 item with 1 mod after 60 hours of gameplay, i'm already forced to makeT16s if i want to farm high bases.

also for our ssf bro's sanity's sake, maybe put out a statement saying: "don't play ssf right now, just wait until we have time to actually balance it"

oh and talismans from the azmeri spirits seem to get "outclassed" by 12% resistance runes, not sure how that happened.

hire one guy to just read he forums and actually reply to people's feedback as a full time job, i know chris was doing it a lot but especially now during EA you need to communicate a lot more with us.
Surprised the "The game isnt balanced around ssf" crew isn't here yet.

Just trade is the biggest cop-out for good game design.

Trade should be treated as a bonus, not a requirement. Sc trade specifically is a disaster every league.

Temporalis dupes, div card cheating, mirror printing, wisp league. Its never going to change. They have to make sure mechanics are mediocre so they don't ruin the sctrade economy within 24 hours of league start.
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Plain and simple. Every single mechanic in endgame is at the very best disappointing. There's not a single mechanic in the entire game that excites the player. The best thing you could ever say about anything in endgame is "oh well it doesn't suck quite as much as the rest".

This is your current endgame. At it's very peak, it doesn't suck quite as much as the rest. What the fuck are you doing Grinding Gear Games?

I've played enough of 0.2 now that the overwhelming sensation I have is "disappointment". Everything just feels bad. Nothing is rewarding. You are making the cardinal sin of ARPG design, you are boring the player.


Essemces: a shortcut to identifying that shit you rather filter out of your drop pool anyway. Useless.

Greater Essences: Fake news, these don't exist and when they do, they're too rare to ever matter. Fuck this system, it's terrible.

Omens. These don't exist.

Greater Omens: I don't even know what you call these, they're only ever relevant to the mirror mafia.I have a "whittling" omen in my deferred list, I won't ever use it because I can't be fucking arsed with the 20+ hours of game time you ask of me for this bullshit.

Expedition: I was so excited for these changes. You obviously don't know but Expedition is the absolute most important mechanic for 95% of SSF starter characters in Path of Exile 1.

Recombinator: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....... What purpose is this even supposed to serve? Middling tiers on anything results in... 25% chance at it's very best? And this is supposed to serve as an early to mid tier crafting tool? Give me a fucking break.

Expedition vendors: this is just insulting. I want a refund.

I've been trying to stay level-headed and think of constructive criticism, I've told myself "if it can be fixed with numerical changes, they'll do it" but now I'm done. I don't think you can fix this with numerical changes. You can either tune this to be PoE1 with WASD movement and prettier graphics, or you can reworkd EVERYTHING. I'm losing faith by the minute.


true i mean wtf, i am still playing slogging though, i am a masochrist.
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Gendono#6367 wrote:
also for our ssf bro's sanity's sake, maybe put out a statement saying: "don't play ssf right now, just wait until we have time to actually balance it"

They have stated PoE1 is not/would not be balanced around SSF. I'm sure PoE2 will be the same.

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Surprised the "The game isnt balanced around ssf" crew isn't here yet.
Oh yeah, I was posting when you were I guess. They literally have said it, so I don't know why anyone's surprised.
Last edited by plz#2115 on Apr 12, 2025, 10:43:01 PM
I didn't play dawn of the hunt because none of the issues with endgame were addressed. The dread set in when I figured out GGG must not even see the issue. I was so thankful for the ziz interview because I could at least HEAR from the devs wtf is going on. They should have been tweaking things non stop instead of treating this like a release. When they started talking about new skill gems instead of remaking end game I knew we were doomed. Hopefully it'll all come together. I dunno, I need the copium. I want the original vision, still.
i dont think ssf is a problem.. the problem is boredom.

pushing lightning spear mindessly for 40 hours is not fun. i wont do it
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plz#2115 wrote:
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Gendono#6367 wrote:
also for our ssf bro's sanity's sake, maybe put out a statement saying: "don't play ssf right now, just wait until we have time to actually balance it"

They have stated PoE1 is not/would not be balanced around SSF. I'm sure PoE2 will be the same.


Blizz also didn't want classic servers. Look how much they gained.
Times goes by, things change, making SSF friendly with buffed rates won't kill trade league.

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KuroSF#6521 wrote:
i dont think ssf is a problem.. the problem is boredom.

pushing lightning spear mindessly for 40 hours is not fun. i wont do it


Play another build that requires piano play on your keyboard, make it meaningful and exciting.
"We've just spent six years making expansions for path of exile, so imagine if we released path of exile 2 and it was just a bare campaign with none of that extra content. This would be a sad shell of an action RPG compared to the current state of path of exile."
Last edited by Aim_High#3562 on Apr 12, 2025, 11:16:05 PM
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Aim_High#3562 wrote:
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plz#2115 wrote:
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Gendono#6367 wrote:
also for our ssf bro's sanity's sake, maybe put out a statement saying: "don't play ssf right now, just wait until we have time to actually balance it"

They have stated PoE1 is not/would not be balanced around SSF. I'm sure PoE2 will be the same.


Blizz also didn't want classic servers. Look how much they gained.
Times goes by, things change, making SSF friendly with buffed rates won't kill trade league.


SSF player here. First off no we dont need increased rates.


Second it absolutely would kill trade league. You know you can transfer from SSF to trade right?
Mash the clean
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SSF player here. First off no we dont need increased rates.


Second it absolutely would kill trade league. You know you can transfer from SSF to trade right?


You don't need*
LE removed trade option between players. Remove option to transfer.
"We've just spent six years making expansions for path of exile, so imagine if we released path of exile 2 and it was just a bare campaign with none of that extra content. This would be a sad shell of an action RPG compared to the current state of path of exile."

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