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Streamers don’t control Reddit or Steam numbers? No kidding. The issue is how fast they poison the well. A couple of big names cry “unfun,” and suddenly everyone’s parroting the same lazy takes before they’ve even scratched the surface.

And the “no build videos” defense? That’s not a win — it just shows how little actual effort went into exploring the game. Most of them sat on their hands waiting for someone else to solve it, then blamed the devs when nothing clicked.

This isn’t about tinfoil hats. It’s about calling out the people who set fire to the community and then act like they’re just watching it burn from a distance.

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N3vangel#0037 wrote:

Streamers don’t control Reddit or Steam numbers? No kidding. The issue is how fast they poison the well. A couple of big names cry “unfun,” and suddenly everyone’s parroting the same lazy takes before they’ve even scratched the surface.

And the “no build videos” defense? That’s not a win — it just shows how little actual effort went into exploring the game. Most of them sat on their hands waiting for someone else to solve it, then blamed the devs when nothing clicked.

This isn’t about tinfoil hats. It’s about calling out the people who set fire to the community and then act like they’re just watching it burn from a distance.

Absolute facts that are all pretty obvious. The fact that it isn't shows you the type of mental acumen most of the "loud" community is working with, which leads into why the game is seemingly so rough for them.

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saashaa#5518 wrote:

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FirstJusticeKeeper#5317 wrote:

you didn’t complete campaign, right? Just 2 boars can stun lock you, even without haste aura on them and with stun threshold increases on player, just because they move at 3x speed of player and attack 3 times per second

[Removed by Support] not with the game. You have options to counter it and they are very slow. Boars are charging very slow. You can even roll them on slow warrior. But warriors mostly kills them before they even hit you.

Actually i think it's to easy to trivalize game with good items. Like now im just barely used attack four times on first act boss without having any fun.

No you don't. You might have options in PoE 1 to counter it, but not in PoE 2. In PoE 1 you get alterations and flasks, making it so you can in fact counter status effects/stuns. In PoE 2 you have to RNG yourself into the right charm since you can't reroll them.
In PoE 1 by the end of act 3 you have access to 95% of the gems in the game, which means that yes, you can counter enemy abilities, be it stuns, freezes, low res... you have the tools. In PoE 2, you don't get access to all gems until you are in maps. Or in gameplay terms for some of the fastest Poe players like tyty 10h+

And nobody is saying that good items don't trivialize PoE 2. If you had more than 2 and a half braincells, you could actually take in the information and realize that people are pissed at how much power is in items, and how inconsistent these are.

BS, Jonathan would even interrupt Mark mid sentences when he was trying to explain things.
If anything Ziz was very diplomatic and that is coming from someone who thought he would be a lot softer on them.

The fact that game designers are still, to this day, morphing their creations based on streamer input is fucking hilarious to me. The level if ignorance and stupidity is astounding.

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addohm#7314 wrote:

The fact that game designers are still, to this day, morphing their creations based on streamer input is fucking hilarious to me. The level if ignorance and stupidity is astounding.

Is there some input they are giving that is any different than what you are reading on these forums, steam, 4chan or reddit? Obviously there are some outlier streamers who are just baiting like ruetoo on one end and alk on the other.

I think it was a good interview by Ziz and Jonathan and Mark handled it remarkably well despite it being tough questions at a tough time.

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Yea thats just... thats very odd to say

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Rajy#1553 wrote:

Yeah I agree. When he said act 1 zone 2 werewolves were too fast it blew my mind.

Some people do not want to be inconvenienced at all and that includes having to actually fight mobs. This interview was crazy to me.

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Please do not trivialize the game. Yes, up the skill floor and nerf the ceiling, but Clearfell is perfect as-is IMHO.