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How is crafting, map completion and all the other things can't get changed during EA development? You are the person i wrote this post for. Did you just decide that those problems are EA not EA issues?
You don't have the problem with EA, you have the problem with developer's vision. And if that is the case, why just not stop playing the game you do not enjoy? If you believe this much that they won't ever change it.
In the long term, I hope GGG will fix these issues. However, based on my experience since 1.3, I believe they won’t in the short term. If GGG manages to fix 50% of the issues I mentioned in the short term, I’d be very surprised.
I might even immediately purchase the $480 supporter pack to show my repentance.
The comment "if you don't like it, don't play it" is rude and foolish, especially for someone like me who is a fan of both PoE1 and PoE2. Chris has repeatedly promised players in release notes and interviews that they would receive regular updates. Now, PoE1 players are being deprived of the updates they deserve, which are being redirected to PoE2. Furthermore, many of PoE2’s issues actually contradict PoE1’s past experiences (often not a matter of vision, but simply being poorly executed and repeating past mistakes).
As a player who enjoys both PoE1 and PoE2, what I see is the betrayal of promises to PoE1 players and the pessimistic outlook for PoE2’s improvements in the short term, which could have been avoided in many ways, even 3-5 years ago.
Its rude only if you are addicted to the game. It is very simple. Something becomes bad and not enjoyable? Don't consume it.
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Posted byMadSheo#0280on Jan 31, 2025, 2:01:15 AM
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Just because you are salty?
I see so many people now dismissing many EA arguments as "not EA problem".
Whoooo decided that? As long as EA period exists everything is EA problem. Any problem can be fixed. Even fundamental problems.
Some time without a patch and you already act like someone on a drug withdrawal. Nothing matters for you but your wants and needs.
Because their actions shows they are not going to make changes. Changes isn't tuning. What they are doing so far is tuning. That mean some of the bad designs are here to stay.
Some of the comments are aimed at bad design concept. Unfortunately, Jonathan openly double down. This is why people are very aggressive.
To make matter worse, some of the issues are already solved in Path of Exile 1. Some are illogical decisions which should never be in game. Some are outdated beliefs which Jonathan openly stated he refused to change.
The reactions are justified.
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Posted byDutchMilk#4689on Jan 31, 2025, 2:02:55 AM
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Did you read what i said at all? Did i ever said that constructive feedback is bad or something? I said that many people act like it's not EA anymore. They just decide that that one problem they do not like is not the EA problem but something that ruins the game and will never be changed.
It's normal to get frustrated. It is also expected that people will act like they are grown ups.
How are you again saying that i disagree with feedback? Again, did you read the post or are you just porjecting?
Dismissive. Why would he listen to you when you won't bother listening to him. Ye for thee, but not for me.
You dismissed my previous comment. Why should he listen to you not listening to him when you don't listen to me ?
Not the guy he responded to, my dude.
Well, I'm listening. What do you want to talk about the game? Not this tone-policing crap thread.
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Posted byAssababud#2808on Jan 31, 2025, 2:04:11 AM
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Just because you are salty?
I see so many people now dismissing many EA arguments as "not EA problem".
Whoooo decided that? As long as EA period exists everything is EA problem. Any problem can be fixed. Even fundamental problems.
Some time without a patch and you already act like someone on a drug withdrawal. Nothing matters for you but your wants and needs.
Because their actions shows they are not going to make changes. Changes isn't tuning. What they are doing so far is tuning. That mean some of the bad designs are here to stay.
Some of the comments are aimed at bad design concept. Unfortunately, Jonathan openly double down. This is why people are very aggressive.
To make matter worse, some of the issues are already solved in Path of Exile 1. Some are illogical decisions which should never be in game. Some are outdated beliefs which Jonathan openly stated he refused to change.
The reactions are justified.
There wasn't even one big content patch? What are you talking about? they even confirmed that they are going to change a lot of fundamental things.
The reactions are justified only on the level of entitled little karens
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Posted byMadSheo#0280on Jan 31, 2025, 2:04:19 AM
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Its rude only if you are addicted to the game. It is very simple. Something becomes bad and not enjoyable? Don't consume it.
I think this is reasonable. Just like I’ve already left enough feedback and stopped playing PoE2, maybe you should stop looking at the feedback as well. This place is meant to be for staff. I don’t understand why there are so many "white knights" patrolling the feedback discussion forums 24/7, pretending to be GGG employees and getting angry at anyone who doesn’t like the game.
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Posted byjojo1225#3785on Jan 31, 2025, 2:10:59 AM
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Just because you are salty?
I see so many people now dismissing many EA arguments as "not EA problem".
Whoooo decided that? As long as EA period exists everything is EA problem. Any problem can be fixed. Even fundamental problems.
Some time without a patch and you already act like someone on a drug withdrawal. Nothing matters for you but your wants and needs.
Because their actions shows they are not going to make changes. Changes isn't tuning. What they are doing so far is tuning. That mean some of the bad designs are here to stay.
Some of the comments are aimed at bad design concept. Unfortunately, Jonathan openly double down. This is why people are very aggressive.
To make matter worse, some of the issues are already solved in Path of Exile 1. Some are illogical decisions which should never be in game. Some are outdated beliefs which Jonathan openly stated he refused to change.
The reactions are justified.
What you are calling issues are player made problems.
You want PoE1 ? You have PoE1. It's there, it's playable. PoE2 is different, and so, you consider it flawed, when it's actually just following a different approach.
GGG has issues to fix. Those issues are about stability, from servers, from the few different plateformes, from the hundreds of different GPUs and CPUs, and the botting, exploiting and cheating, alonside completing the game with art, music, voices, landscapes, animations, sound effect, visual effects, story telling, cinematics. All if those take a lot of manpower. And no, GGG doesn't really care about tweaking skill gem damage number, currency efficiency for crafting, and Endgame map clearing because that's extremely superficial and they already have a lot more important things to do.
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Posted bydwqrf#0717on Jan 31, 2025, 2:12:35 AM
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Its rude only if you are addicted to the game. It is very simple. Something becomes bad and not enjoyable? Don't consume it.
I think this is reasonable. Just like I’ve already left enough feedback and stopped playing PoE2, maybe you should stop looking at the feedback as well. This place is meant to be for staff. I don’t understand why there are so many "white knights" patrolling the feedback discussion forums 24/7, pretending to be GGG employees and getting angry at anyone who doesn’t like the game.
My post is not about feedback. Its about feedback that states that problem "X" is not EA problem anymore.
That is so dumb i can't even begin to explain it.
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Posted byMadSheo#0280on Jan 31, 2025, 2:14:47 AM
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Its rude only if you are addicted to the game. It is very simple. Something becomes bad and not enjoyable? Don't consume it.
I think this is reasonable. Just like I’ve already left enough feedback and stopped playing PoE2, maybe you should stop looking at the feedback as well. This place is meant to be for staff. I don’t understand why there are so many "white knights" patrolling the feedback discussion forums 24/7, pretending to be GGG employees and getting angry at anyone who doesn’t like the game.
There is difference between "fedback" and "rant". Many people just vent their frustration here because they are simply bad in the game and refuse to learn or because the game is different they expected. So if players have the right to say "i don't like the game" then another players have the right to say opposite. Why should be feedback composed from negative posts only?
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Posted bySakanabi#6664on Jan 31, 2025, 2:15:47 AM
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Many players have given serious analysis and suggestions, dating back to December before GGG released the 0.1.1 version update.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3629096
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3713725
They all tried their best to explain why. You can see that the same questions were raised in December and still are raised now. There are also many similar repeated questions.
Feedback is for players to raise their own opinions on the aspects of the game experience that they think can be improved, rather than being God-knowing to raise feedback.
Since you think it is a problem and raise feedback, of course you hope it can be improved. If you don't want the problem to be improved, then what is the purpose of the feedback?
Your dislike for others venting their emotions is also a kind of emotion, and everyone is the same.
Players pay money in games out of trust that the game company can provide services. However, various problems have not been resolved from December to now, so it is normal to complain.
It is normal for consumers to be frustrated by the empty promises issued by the companies they invest in.
If you disagree with others expressing their opinions, and you want others to unconditionally understand that GGG cannot fulfill its promises, then you must also require yourself to unconditionally accept other people's complaints. This is equal.
Did you read what i said at all? Did i ever said that constructive feedback is bad or something? I said that many people act like it's not EA anymore. They just decide that that one problem they do not like is not the EA problem but something that ruins the game and will never be changed.
It's normal to get frustrated. It is also expected that people will act like they are grown ups.
How are you again saying that i disagree with feedback? Again, did you read the post or are you just porjecting?
If these problems raised by players are solved, they will not recur. Unfortunately, GGG has not solved any problems.
So more players will come here to post because of the same problem.Some people complain, which is a normal reaction.
Even complaints are a form of feedback, because GGG does not know what effect their designs will have after players experience them. What they think is interesting may not be considered so by many players or may even be hated by them.
Players need to pay fees to help GGG test products, and then help GGG find and raise various problems, and then propose solutions to help them solve problems. Only then can it be considered constructive opinions?
Then I propose a more constructive and useful feedback, which is: GGG pays players to participate in game testing, and players are responsible for proposing solutions to solve problems, because in this way, players and GGG are in an employment relationship, and players have the obligation to complete the company's work after receiving GGG's salary.
But even employees can express dissatisfaction with their employers and form a union.
So why can't players complain?
Everyone can complain about problems and express their approval of GGG's work, but they cannot stop others from making complaints or expressing their approval, or think that it is wrong to express approval or complaints.
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Posted byki784340143#8116on Jan 31, 2025, 2:16:16 AM
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Its rude only if you are addicted to the game. It is very simple. Something becomes bad and not enjoyable? Don't consume it.
I think this is reasonable. Just like I’ve already left enough feedback and stopped playing PoE2, maybe you should stop looking at the feedback as well. This place is meant to be for staff. I don’t understand why there are so many "white knights" patrolling the feedback discussion forums 24/7, pretending to be GGG employees and getting angry at anyone who doesn’t like the game.
There is difference between "fedback" and "rant". Many people just vent their frustration here because they are simply bad in the game and refuse to learn or because the game is different they expected. So if players have the right to say "i don't like the game" then another players have the right to say opposite. Why should be feedback composed from negative posts only?
It’s interesting to see you spend so much time trolling other feedback, replying with meaningless nonsense, instead of actually playing the game. The time you spend trolling could probably be enough to run through three campaign.
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Posted byjojo1225#3785on Jan 31, 2025, 2:23:42 AM
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