Why is everyone acting like its not Early Access anymore?

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MadSheo#0280 wrote:

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HeroEvermore#0498 wrote:

Early Access LOLOLOL
6 years....6....LOLOLOL

Damn, time flies fast. I didnt even realise poe2 is in EA for 6 years now. Wow.

We get it you are sad people do not like the game. Boohoo

Early Access is just that, the ability to access a game early, before it's finished.

Which can and often means, there will be bugs, broken content and significant issues over the course of the early access period. It also means updates may be sparse and take significant time to release.

For example, take no rest for the wicked, another arpg, released into early access last year around April.

It had a handful of hotfix updates early on to fix problems, but it didn't get any new content until 4 months after early access launch and the next content update is due next month, a full 8 months after the last one. The game is still in EA and likely will for be for some time.

Look at BG3 as well, EA for that game lasted for years and for that entire time the only content playable was the first act, it didn't get any new content at all until the game released.

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jojo1225#3785 wrote:

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MadSheo#0280 wrote:

So core problems are not EA problems?
You just don't believe they gonna change that or they think it's not the problem. And guess what, if many people don't see that as a problem - it's not. Those things are subjective and you didn't even provide examples of such "core problems".

Crafting, Map Completion Requirements, Map Generator, Charms/Ailment, Stun system, hp/armour problem, movement speed/movement skills.

I’m quite sure that each of the titles above has at least 10 constructive threads of feedback discussing them.

Since version 1.3 of PoE1, HP/armor has always been bad, and GGG knew about it for a long time. It wasn't until around 3.17 that it was slightly improved, which took at least five years.

Ailment is another disaster; it is almost a copy-paste of PoE1’s Ailment but provides players with none of the resistance options that were available in PoE1.

Since 3.15, GGG has spent nearly four years forcing players to get used to unavoidable ailments. In PoE1, feedback on ailments never stopped, yet there was zero change. Therefore, I don’t believe they will make adjustments based on player feedback during the EA phase. This judgment should be reasonable, right?

How is crafting, map completion and all the other things can't get changed during EA development? You are the person i wrote this post for. Did you just decide that those problems are EA not EA issues?

You don't have the problem with EA, you have the problem with developer's vision. And if that is the case, why just not stop playing the game you do not enjoy? If you believe this much that they won't ever change it.

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HeroEvermore#0498 wrote:

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MadSheo#0280 wrote:

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HeroEvermore#0498 wrote:

Early Access LOLOLOL
6 years....6....LOLOLOL

Damn, time flies fast. I didnt even realise poe2 is in EA for 6 years now. Wow.

We get it you are sad people do not like the game. Boohoo

Great insight. So, any word on that 6 year notion? Or were you just talking nonsense for the sake of it?

If those people would talk in real life like they write here, they would constantly have problems, like (physical) conflicts. They abuse their anonymity here and talk about conspiracy theories, calling names or using strong language against GGG or people who still believe in GGG.

Like small children they lie on the ground and screaming because their mom doesn't want to buy them something sweet. Touch some grass, guys. Some real life would do you good.

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MadMossy#1934 wrote:

Early Access is just that, the ability to access a game early, before it's finished.

Which can and often means, there will be bugs, broken content and significant issues over the course of the early access period. It also means updates may be sparse and take significant time to release.

For example, take no rest for the wicked, another arpg, released into early access last year around April.

It had a handful of hotfix updates early on to fix problems, but it didn't get any new content until 4 months after early access launch and the next content update is due next month, a full 8 months after the last one. The game is still in EA and likely will for be for some time.

Look at BG3 as well, EA for that game lasted for years and for that entire time the only content playable was the first act, it didn't get any new content at all until the game released.

Did you actually read what early access means? Or at least googled it? Or did you just decide for yourself to define two words how it better fits your argument?

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MadSheo#0280 wrote:

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ki784340143#8116 wrote:

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jojo1225#3785 wrote:

Some issues are feature-related; you just need to adjust little part of these features, and they can be improved quickly.

Some issues, however, are core problems, which relate to how GGG perceives the overall operation of this game.

Based on past experiences with PoE1, GGG often takes two to three years before they are willing to admit that core issues are terrible.

Players who point out core problems are mocked by white knights, but in the end, their concerns are proven to be valid.I have never seen these trolling white knights apologize for their foolish replies.After all, this is the internet era, where 30-year-old babies post irresponsible comments everywhere.

If GGG is still the GGG I know, I believe that 70% of the issues raised during EA will not be addressed until they receive even greater negative feedback.

Does this sentence make it seem like I believe GGG won't significantly change the core of the game? I think so. GGG is not as flexible as they initially promised. In fact, they are quite stubborn in many aspects.

At this stage, I believe I have provided all the feedback I needed to give. As for the parts I haven't mentioned, I'm sure many others have already voiced them. I've decided to relax and play PoE1, because even though it has been abandoned, it is still much more enjoyable than PoE2 in many ways.

You are right. Many of the issues that players have seriously reported since December have not been resolved yet, so players are still repeatedly reporting the same issues.

For some reason people think that posting something on "Feedback" means that it will get "fixed". Most of the posts are babyrage threads from entitled children.

Many players have given serious analysis and suggestions, dating back to December before GGG released the 0.1.1 version update.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3629096

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3713725

They all tried their best to explain why. You can see that the same questions were raised in December and still are raised now. There are also many similar repeated questions.

Feedback is for players to raise their own opinions on the aspects of the game experience that they think can be improved, rather than being God-knowing to raise feedback.

Since you think it is a problem and raise feedback, of course you hope it can be improved. If you don't want the problem to be improved, then what is the purpose of the feedback?

Your dislike for others venting their emotions is also a kind of emotion, and everyone is the same.

Players pay money in games out of trust that the game company can provide services. However, various problems have not been resolved from December to now, so it is normal to complain.


It is normal for consumers to be frustrated by the empty promises issued by the companies they invest in.

If you disagree with others expressing their opinions, and you want others to unconditionally understand that GGG cannot fulfill its promises, then you must also require yourself to unconditionally accept other people's complaints. This is equal.

This guy doesnt know how long they have been working on this game LOL

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AceNightfire#0980 wrote:

If those people would talk in real life like they write here, they would constantly have problems, like (physical) conflicts. They abuse their anonymity here and talk about conspiracy theories, calling names or using strong language against GGG or people who still believe in GGG.

Like small children they lie on the ground and screaming because their mom doesn't want to buy them something sweet. Touch some grass, guys. Some real life would do you good.

Pretty much. But i mean, its not like you ever going to see those people in real life. They live online.

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HeroEvermore#0498 wrote:

This guy doesnt know how long they have been working on this game LOL

So, there is no way you don't realise that working on the game and launching early access are two completely different states of the game. Do you think that early access just means that you get to play the game before anyone else? Or maybe... just maybe... its a development model? Hmmm.... i wonder.