Dear GGG: PLS Consider SSF LOOT BUFF To Compensate TRADING...Details Below :)

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whowe1#7244 wrote:

At this point a significant boost to SSF and other changes to death penalties are the only things that will make me come back. I shouldn't be forced to trade with other players to progress my character in a freaking ARPG. The drop rates are clearly balanced around trade and they suck. The loot in general sucks.

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Jitter912#4278 wrote:

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Snorkle_uk#0761 wrote:

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Jitter912#4278 wrote:

40% of the game had 0% interest in using the market.
Im sure it is higher, if people didn't feel they were bricked without it, im sure it would be higher.

its way higher if poe1 is anything to go by, which its safe to presume it is considering we got even more noobs in the game now and its mostly the die hard vets who trade.


this is from the dev manifesto

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Most players who play Path of Exile never trade. Out of the players who do trade, most only complete a few trades in a league. The subset of players who regularly trade strongly overlaps with our core reddit and forum communities. Chances are, if you're reading this, then you're one of the top 10% of players in terms of engagement with advanced systems.

so the majority of players never trade.

of the minority who do trade the majority of them only trade a couple of times, they dont really get any trade advantage at all.


so the people who actually trade a lot and get significant power from it are a minority of a minority. like theyre saying, that hardcore 10% of players who play for 1000s and 1000s of hours and probably spend tons of $$$, post in the forums a lot, watch streams etc represent a disproportionately large amount of traders. the trade community is fundamental to the player base, theyre very important.

but the devs have the data and from what they have told us the vast majority of people who play poe are not really trading.


ssf league has a low player count from what i gather, so the majority dont trade and the majority that dont trade are in the normal league. they just dont trade.

I know, they don't trade, they quit.
what do you think they do linger in poverty begging in chat for donations?

Ya people like trade league, go at it.
Its called easy mode, and its easier.
Then there is SSF where the game is balanced for a player who , uses crafting, spends all their orbs on crafting, and gets their loot from drops. Except it isn't ............

Right now i have -1% chaos resist.
I dunno 10% fire resists.
Nothing is maxed out, cause i can't.

There is nothing for me to craft to get where i need to be.
I can't fix anything.
I have perhaps 10 tries to make something from white to rare using all of the orb combinations in my bag i doubt ill hit what i need.
I WON'T use the trade site.

So to be blunt unless i get something of value to bring any enjoyment to this game. Im out.

Im not going to do the shitty trials again ..
Im not going to spend hundreds of hours reading crap loot descriptions.
Im not going to play virtual dumpster diver , grabbing empty beer cans from the trash to bring to the recycling plant so i can get some money to buy a sword.

I would play PoE2 except its balanced to buy to win.
drops are balanced around buy to win .
Game scaling assumes buy to win, where we all should buy the top 2% of gear.

Its actually quite bad for an arpg, not sure what game model they are trying for tbh, a mobile ish thing ?

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chobo999#2010 wrote:

My response of above: Then GL to GGG, i.e. same Fate as PoE1.

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Snorkle_uk#0761 wrote:

ssf league has a low player count from what i gather

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Orbaal#0435 wrote:

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chobo999#2010 wrote:

My response of above: Then GL to GGG, i.e. same Fate as PoE1.

If you mean nothing but growth for a decade plus then yeah, thats pretty much the fate GGG is trying to go for if you ask me.

Funnily thats precisely why I dont believe GGG is going to change anything fundamentally and turning PoE into a mainstream game in doing so.

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chobo999#2010 wrote:

PoE1 is Dead.

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Orbaal#0435 wrote:

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chobo999#2010 wrote:

PoE1 is Dead.

Is it?

The current PoE1 league had the best launch with the highest playercount in the games history.


Doesnt sound dead to me. More like wishful thinking on your end.
Plus PoE2 in its current state is more difficult and way more grindy than the old one. Does that sound like mainstream was the goal?


Feel free to wish for whatever you like, I dont think the game´s current state nor any of Devs statements supprt your wishes at all.


But regardless, lets agree to disagree and best of luck with your wishes.

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Orbaal#0435 wrote:

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chobo999#2010 wrote:

PoE1 is Dead.

Is it?

The current PoE1 league had the best launch with the highest playercount in the games history.


Doesnt sound dead to me. More like wishful thinking on your end.
Plus PoE2 in its current state is more difficult and way more grindy than the old one. Does that sound like mainstream was the goal?


Feel free to wish for whatever you like, I dont think the game´s current state nor any of Devs statements supprt your wishes at all.


But regardless, lets agree to disagree and best of luck with your wishes.

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Stan3k#1369 wrote:

Hes a forum troll, not worth talking, he wont understand or will pretend to misunderstand whatever you say, just report and move on

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Stan3k#1369 wrote:

Hes a forum troll, not worth talking, he wont understand or will pretend to misunderstand whatever you say, just report and move on