XP loss leads to player count loss.

Died to some invisible BS in sump map which is already cluttered with garbage foliage on the ground, fix your shit, 3 hours of xp loss is amazing due to incompetent design.

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MEITTI#3999 wrote:

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toxiitea#5772 wrote:

why are you so upset that people would be more willing to play if these "systems" weren't in the game?

Because thats not true. Diablo 3 and 4 were overcasualized games and nobody wants to play those games. You're essentially trying to argue that a rollercoaster is more fun if you get the photo of you riding it without actually having to ride it.

hmm thanks for double downing on trolling and not contributing.

would this increase poe player count not talking about d3 and d4.(that's hard because you have to bring something down to bring something up, that's your mentality from your comments) how would you even be able to gauge playerbase increases or decreases when bnet is practically the only way people play.

let's stay on topic of discussion because you keep trying to steer things in a random direction

"look elden you lose xp." you don't lose 50 maps or a citadel. for a single mistake


Please try and contribute instead of being dismissive because your only hobby for 10 years is at risk of changing for the better. Xp loss is only pushing players to play other games.

if xp loss was so important why is it shifted onto the player when the combat isn't as important at level 70?

if this is so meaningful why doesn't ggg implement the system to start? because no one would play. and if you need to artificially inflate content by adding a penalty to death you need more engaging content. I'm a hamster on a wheel and if there's nothing gained while running the hamster will no longer be willing to run/


if you're not gaining loot upgrades because drops are so heinous then you're now chasing the next hit of dopamine by hitting the next level. this is a game about progression.

so now I'm not gaining any loot

I just died 5% from level 96

my bar went back 10% and now I need to do 4x my effort just today to get back to where I was.

hamster alt-f4s

I'm not even saying I'm right but there's no denying playercount would increase. players aren't going to stop playing because one avenue of punishment is no longer in the game when you have many other avenues to take that masochist lifestyle

There is no harm in making a league with no Xp penalty. Fact.

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HeroEvermore#0498 wrote:

There is no harm in making a league with no Xp penalty. Fact.

There is no harm making a Mario game without pits, turtles, and plants. Fact.

There is no harm making a Tetris game where you can pause the game and change the given piece. Fact.

There is no harm playing a chess game and when you are in check-mate, saying : "that doesn't count, let's go back a few moves so I can win". Fact.

The issue at hand is that this new gen of players can't accept losing in a game.

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MEITTI#3999 wrote:

Have to love people saying that Elden Ring system is more merciful when you can lose all of your "xp" in their system. The difference there is that Fromsoft doesn't care about your feelings so you sucked it up, got gud and avoided dying in hard to reach places.

The difference being you can see animations and whats going on in Elden Ring. So you earned that death. In PoE 2 clarity is non existent. Fact.
I beat Elden Ring 3 days ago for the first time. 10x easier game than PoE 2.

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toxiitea#5772 wrote:

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dwqrf#0717 wrote:

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HeroEvermore#0498 wrote:

There is no harm in making a league with no Xp penalty. Fact.

There is no harm making a Mario game without pits, turtles, and plants. Fact.

There is no harm making a Tetris game where you can pause the game and change the given piece. Fact.

There is no harm playing a chess game and when you are in check-mate, saying : "that doesn't count, let's go back a few moves so I can win". Fact.

The issue at hand is that this new gen of players can't accept losing in a game.

also no harm in being a decent person to people who don't share your views. passive aggression will only lead to a hateful community. is that your goal? seems like the goal.

Are you harassing me ? Seems like you are harassing me.

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dwqrf#0717 wrote:

Are you harassing me ? Seems like you are harassing me.

questioning your motives is far from what you;re implying dude.... I'm asking what your goal is in the community by these comments? is it to garner a hateful community because that's all this comment is right?

So I'll just ask again, what's your goal with these type of pointed questions that have very "in your face" shades of aggression. do you want people to have a discussion or do you want to be met with the same attitude?

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toxiitea#5772 wrote:

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dwqrf#0717 wrote:

Are you harassing me ? Seems like you are harassing me.

questioning your motives is far from what you;re implying dude.... I'm asking what your goal is in the community by these comments? is it to garner a hateful community because that's all this comment is right?

So I'll just ask again, what's your goal with these type of pointed questions that have very "in your face" shades of aggression. do you want people to have a discussion or do you want to be met with the same attitude?

What's your goal by forcing yourself to play a game where you keep dying while hating the core mecanics of punitive deaths ? Why do you do that to yourself ? Why do you have to complain about it instead of just, you know, moving on, getting a tough skin, or gitting gooder ? Do you think the whole game should be adjusted to your feelings ?

So many unanswered questions.

You see this is a feedback post, where we come to give feedback. Stop trolling in this feed.

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HeroEvermore#0498 wrote:

You see this is a feedback post, where we come to give feedback. Stop trolling in this feed.

So my feedback saying that XP loss and one portal/map are real important features that give meaning and value to the Endgame, while also being signature designs of a good arpg doesn't matter ?

Right, right. Opposite opinions can only be trolling to you, so let's see yours like that as well.