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dying 1 single time at level 95 can set you back about 50 maps. 1 time.
So play better. You're already lvl 95, why are you still doing common rookie mistakes?
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Posted byMEITTI#3999on Jan 19, 2025, 11:43:03 AM
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I think it's a combination of things of frustration - xp is just 1 of them from the month long feedback on forums. Whether people agree or not these are repeated topics.
1) 1 map loss
2) disconnect/lag and breach loss
3) armor stanks
4) mainly aoe mash builds
5) no build diversity
6) game starts off slow as elden ring then becomes vampire survivor
7) on death effects
8) multiplayer scaling
9) ascendency behind rng mechanics
10) crafting bad
11) trade on a website, waiting on players to respond
12) gold/bot spam in chats + whispers
13) loot upgrade almost non existant
14) uniques are still meh
15) body blocking, mob speed vs player speed
16) class imbalances
17) end game mainly kill monster before they kill you
18) some maps just badly laid out (i.e. augury, or that forest one with too many trees/rocks that block things)
+1
These are the problems they were supposed to address, but instead we're going to add 4 more tower layouts that are giant maps! This reminds me of that annoying sextant thing in poe1 and out of curiosity they removed it a few years ago hahaha but they created something very similar in poe2. I think whoever developed poe2 didn't see how poe1 is currently.
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Posted bykillgameplay#7851on Jan 19, 2025, 11:43:32 AM
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dying 1 single time at level 95 can set you back about 50 maps. 1 time.
If you're grinding past 95 and are not using an Omen of Amelioration, that's on you.
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Posted byMordgier#6997on Jan 19, 2025, 11:44:26 AM
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Do you know what's even more tiring? Assuming that everyone who can withstand XP penalty MUST play OP/exploit builds. You don't need these builds. You just need a build that is not a piece of shit. Simple as that.
Looking through your posts, it seems that this point is sore for you. Just to point it out, I did qualify my statement by saying "some", which means I may not have been talking about you personally. I'm sure that there are some, like you, who are trying to do something unique and having success with it. Truly, kudos to you. I'm glad you are having fun doing your own thing, really.
The others, who I was talking about, however, I would wager are in the vast majority. I even get them. They were conditioned in 1 that the way you play the game is: look for meta, build it, farm currency (optional), trade/RMT gear for build, dominate game until bored and/or frustrated with higher level garbage, wait for new league reset and changes.
I find it curious that while you continually state that you are not one of these people, you reacted to my post so defensively and crudely. We do seem to be at odds on the XP penalty, so there probably is no reconciliation there, but I'm fine with you having your opinion and would expect that you could do the same.
I did also notice that you didn't address anything regarding the main context of my post, though. And you don't have to. I imagine you've covered it all before, again based on your history.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and what they want out of games, and I think everyone here is hoping that this game will turn out to be "that" game. Time will tell.
dude the thing is building a "meta build" is not rocket science like you seems to think, just because you have a good build dont mean you must have copy/paste someone else or that you need to use rmt (trade is part of the game or you can play ssf) this is unreasonable. Anyone who played arpg can come up with his own build and in the end there's good odds that it will be close to "meta" you can't realy avoid that. All you can do is hope for more option and more competitiv build; afaic i think for an early access with many weapon and skill yet to come this is not that bad.
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Posted byBigBeuss#5956on Jan 19, 2025, 11:47:01 AM
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I think it's a combination of things of frustration - xp is just 1 of them from the month long feedback on forums. Whether people agree or not these are repeated topics.
1) 1 map loss
2) disconnect/lag and breach loss
3) armor stanks
4) mainly aoe mash builds
5) no build diversity
6) game starts off slow as elden ring then becomes vampire survivor
7) on death effects
8) multiplayer scaling
9) ascendency behind rng mechanics
10) crafting bad
11) trade on a website, waiting on players to respond
12) gold/bot spam in chats + whispers
13) loot upgrade almost non existant
14) uniques are still meh
15) body blocking, mob speed vs player speed
16) class imbalances
17) end game mainly kill monster before they kill you
18) some maps just badly laid out (i.e. augury, or that forest one with too many trees/rocks that block things)
+1
These are the problems they were supposed to address, but instead we're going to add 4 more tower layouts that are giant maps! This reminds me of that annoying sextant thing in poe1 and out of curiosity they removed it a few years ago hahaha but they created something very similar in poe2. I think whoever developed poe2 didn't see how poe1 is currently.
are you even playing the game ? the nexw tower maps are far than giant, wtf they are pretty cool actualy.
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Posted byBigBeuss#5956on Jan 19, 2025, 11:49:29 AM
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dying 1 single time at level 95 can set you back about 50 maps. 1 time.
So play better. You're already lvl 95, why are you still doing common rookie mistakes?
you're avoiding the problem. lmao going in threads to spew nonsense while actively not engaging in conversations is simply strange. stop telling people and have a conversation dude. so weird.
you're not even making sense at this point, just seeking attention to "save" a game you don't even care about.
why are you so upset that people would be more willing to play if these "systems" weren't in the game? I just showed you how someone who doesn't have 15 hours a day can't even engage in systems or how you literally lose a day progression in a single mistake. we are humans and humans make mistakes.... you expect me to overcome a mistake that takes 100 hours to attempt again?
why talk if you have nothing but rage bait to add? your "feedback" of getting good is as useful as purchasing a moldy vegetable.
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Posted bytoxiitea#5772on Jan 19, 2025, 11:49:52 AM
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Do you know what's even more tiring? Assuming that everyone who can withstand XP penalty MUST play OP/exploit builds. You don't need these builds. You just need a build that is not a piece of shit. Simple as that.
Looking through your posts, it seems that this point is sore for you. Just to point it out, I did qualify my statement by saying "some", which means I may not have been talking about you personally. I'm sure that there are some, like you, who are trying to do something unique and having success with it. Truly, kudos to you. I'm glad you are having fun doing your own thing, really.
The others, who I was talking about, however, I would wager are in the vast majority. I even get them. They were conditioned in 1 that the way you play the game is: look for meta, build it, farm currency (optional), trade/RMT gear for build, dominate game until bored and/or frustrated with higher level garbage, wait for new league reset and changes.
I find it curious that while you continually state that you are not one of these people, you reacted to my post so defensively and crudely. We do seem to be at odds on the XP penalty, so there probably is no reconciliation there, but I'm fine with you having your opinion and would expect that you could do the same.
I did also notice that you didn't address anything regarding the main context of my post, though. And you don't have to. I imagine you've covered it all before, again based on your history.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and what they want out of games, and I think everyone here is hoping that this game will turn out to be "that" game. Time will tell.
I reacted what I reacted because I'm just tired of this "argument" used over and over again regardless the fact that is the straight lie. Same as "level 100 is a goal of the game" argument. Boring and stupid. That's why I respond to these arguments. Because they are lies. And lies have no place in debate or discussion.
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Posted bySakanabi#6664on Jan 19, 2025, 11:53:08 AM
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why are you so upset that people would be more willing to play if these "systems" weren't in the game?
Because thats not true. Diablo 3 and 4 were overcasualized games and nobody wants to play those games. You're essentially trying to argue that a rollercoaster is more fun if you get the photo of you riding it without actually having to ride it.
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Posted byMEITTI#3999on Jan 19, 2025, 11:57:27 AM
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Can you please elucidate this "lie"? I have no idea what you are talking about "this "argument" " is pretty vague.
Oh gosh. The argument that you need op/meta build in order to success in endgame. But I'm not sure if there is anything else to be said.
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Posted bySakanabi#6664on Jan 19, 2025, 12:06:35 PM
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It is really "past 1999" or people are just spoiled because they played Diablo 4? a game made for casual players, because this is what I believe what's going on.
Tech guy
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Posted byWarrax#2850on Jan 19, 2025, 12:10:59 PM
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