XP Loss, a division for no reason.

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mrxkon#5764 wrote:
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arandan#3174 wrote:
OH I have a lot of arguments, I'm just tired of repeating them to every single sycophant who wants to turn this franchise into mush, like they have done with every single fucking previous one.

If you want easy games and instant gratification, there are many games for out of there, go fucking play those instead of trying to ruin another one with your whining.


You must have quite a bit of anger in you to feel the need to swear in every other sentence to make a point. Swearing and e-bravado never really won an argument though.

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arandan#3174 wrote:
Don't you worry your pants, people like me will support this company to the end of the fucking world. I only display here a tiny fraction of what I'm willing to spend in order to keep the integrity of this franchise intact.


I think that you are in no position whatsoever to come to a conclusion or definitive stance of how a game/product is meant to be designed and build, especially not this one. I don't believe I saw your credentials on any C-Level position within GGG, please do correct me if I'm wrong. Hence why in my presentation/proposal, call it as you please, I made it pretty clear that it's their decision, we can only provide well stated arguments for each side.

That being said, I believe that it's worth taking a step back if you're willing to and realize that you're as significant and in turn as insignificant voice as well as any other person in this forum. Don't think that you're neither better nor worse than anyone else, just a simple reality check from time to time goes a long way.

If by "spending" you're literally talking in terms of money, that doesn't mean anything. The deal is that you chose to spend it at your own free will and that doesn't include any contract clauses in giving you the right to make any decisions or steering the company to what you think is best, not just by yourself at least.

Sorry to shatter your dreams like a delirium mirror by the way.

If a decision from GGG happens to align with yours, well that's just individuals agreeing ( and that includes a multitude of other people also ), they didn't align theirs according to you specifically though.

Aside: I don't know why the game has different standards from the forum. There's clearly a profanity filter in-game, which could've easily been applied as an option in a forum. Nice feature request to have though!


Read the context of what you are quoting.
Nowhere did I claim that by me spending money I get to say how things go. You are simply misunderstanding and/or misrepresenting on purpose what I said.

The reason I was swearing a lot yesterday on these forums, was because I was engaging with people like you, who are incapable of comprehending what they're reading.
They tend to re-interpret what was written and then expect the other party to defend the position they never held in the first place. It is simply impossible to have a civil dialogue with people who act that way.
Plenty of reason for it and it’s been stated multiple times why it’s there
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Plenty of reason for it and it’s been stated multiple times why it’s there


Source plz.
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arandan#3174 wrote:
I only display here a tiny fraction of what I'm willing to spend in order to keep the integrity of this franchise intact.


How is this either a misunderstanding or misrepresenting? It's your words, not mine.

"Keeping the integrity" ( whatever in your opinion might mean ) because "you're spending", is exactly how it reads and leading into "say how things go".

See the point that I'm trying to make? Maybe if it was worded differently it would give a different impression ( but hey I might be wrong as well ). Especially when adding the overall "tone" of your comments.

I'm not against you by the way, far from it, I'm just having a conversation and trying to keep it on a polite level.

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The reason I was swearing a lot yesterday on these forums, was because I was engaging with people like you, who are incapable of comprehending what they're reading.


I'm not sure why do you think that someone is "incapable of comprehending" something just because they have a different opinion. It's more likely that you're incapable to comprehend that it's just a different opinion and simply accept, respect it and by all means disagree with it.

That's why after going through as many comments as possible I just came down to the conclusion that maybe it makes sense to add another level of difficulty. This takes away absolutely nothing from your and my experience that like "Standard", but it also allows more people to play the way they like to play.

You are ( unfortunately I might say ) still trying to "defend" your side, when that was exactly my point, both sides are correct for their own reasons so fighting in eternity about it doesn't really solve anything.

You can swear all you want by the way, I'm not here to force or tell anyone what to do and how to behave at the end of the day, I'm merely making observations and give my opinions even if they worth nothing.
Last edited by mrxkon#5764 on Jan 1, 2025, 12:41:09 PM
I think I quite clearly asked you to go and read the context of what you were quoting so that you could possibly try and understand what my reply meant.

You either didn't do that, or you did and yet you are still incapable of comprehending what I had written and you are STILL misrepresenting me in what you are claiming.

You clearly need me to spell it out for you. Now ask yourself this, how am I supposed to remain civil in a discussion with someone if I have to literally guide them through reading comprehension basics?

I was replying to someone who claimed that unless xp on death is modified GGG will lose a lot of support and therefore revenue. My reply that people like me would support them regardless is what I meant by them being able to keep the integrity of their product.
You then went ahead and reinterpreted it in your head to mean that I'm claiming that I get to decide what that integrity looks like. I did not.

Understood?
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arandan#3174 wrote:
You clearly need me to spell it out for you. Now ask yourself this, how am I supposed to remain civil in a discussion with someone if I have to literally guide them through reading comprehension basics?


Because, in my opinion, that's what you're supposed to do to make others understand. Swearing or any similar manners won't help as mentioned ( but I do understand the frustration also ). If they still don't understand you can always remove yourself from the discussion because you can consider it a lost cause and I'm pretty sure you have better things to do than lowering your level.

Again this is my opinion and in no way "telling" you what to do. You're your own person as I am.

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arandan#3174 wrote:
I was replying to someone who claimed that unless xp on death is modified GGG will lose a lot of support and therefore revenue. My reply that people like me would support them regardless is what I meant by them being able to keep the integrity of their product.
You then went ahead and reinterpreted it in your head to mean that I'm claiming that I get to decide what that integrity looks like. I did not.


I do apologize then, but my point of at least wording it better still stands. What you "meant" vs what others will understand ( including myself ) might be worlds apart and you might be asked ( as proven ) to make it clear over and over again, if you like, if not that's fine as well. No need to get upset about it though.

So you saying that you'll continue to support them ( as I will as well ) is exceptional and I'm with you, but that doesn't change the fact that you and I might be 2 against 10.000, it can also be the other way around, nobody knows that, so nobody in reality can know or speculate the actual MRR business wise. Only GGG has that data, either already or after they do their research as well.

And that's where my whole discussion moves around ( at least the one I tried to make ), that maybe it makes sense to keep these folks also, "in their own version" so they don't affect the others ( you, me or hardcore ), instead of just saying "no". But like I also said, that's a GGG decision at the end of the day.
Last edited by mrxkon#5764 on Jan 1, 2025, 1:29:41 PM
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