An Option to One Portal per map/death we can all live with

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dwqrf#0717 wrote:
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Toforto#2372 wrote:


If you want "challenge" go play hc ssf. The standard Softcore mode shouldn't have mechanics that so blatantly waste your time. This is why those other gamemodes exist, for people who think the game is too "easy". No reason why the rest of the 95% playerbase needs to suffer just because a few people wanting the game to be a certain way.

Other people don't have to play the game exactly the way you do. The vast majority hates 1 portal per map, and it needs to be changed. ARPGs by nature are casual and easy, if you're looking for a challenging game this isn't even the right genre to be trying lol


-1001.

Why should other people forced to play the way you want ?

ARPGs aren't nor casual, nor easy, by nature.

If you are looking for a non self challenging game, it isn't this one.


Yup pretty much we play the game the devs designed


We can suggest some tweaks but major changes to their core is not even worth trying

Torf seems to think PoE1 and now 2 are dying so I’m not sure what they are still doing here
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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Spoiler: The oneshots will never be balanced.

So if they keep this 1-portal garbage then the game will suffer for it.

Also the economy is already cooked in this test league lmao people still run MF group maps because that's the best way to make currency not whatever thing you could do solo in PoE 1. 6 portals doesn't have this huge effect on the economy that you think it does.


So just because group play is broken there's no problem with 6 portals being broken too? wtf is that kind of logic? Group play is another topic that needs to be adressed.

And after 12+ years playing PoE ye i kinda know the effect 6 portal mf builds brought to the economy, not only that, it´s a [Removed by Support] playstyle that should never be possible and goes against anything a game should promote, play bad and get rich.
IGN - Slayonara
Last edited by JC_GGG#0000 on Jan 3, 2025, 9:26:41 AM
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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Spoiler: The oneshots will never be balanced.

So if they keep this 1-portal garbage then the game will suffer for it.

Also the economy is already cooked in this test league lmao people still run MF group maps because that's the best way to make currency not whatever thing you could do solo in PoE 1. 6 portals doesn't have this huge effect on the economy that you think it does.


So just because group play is broken there's no problem with 6 portals being broken too? wtf is that kind of logic? Group play is another topic that needs to be adressed.

And after 12+ years playing PoE ye i kinda know the effect 6 portal mf builds brought to the economy, not only that, it´s a [Removed by Support] playstyle that should never be possible and goes against anything a game should promote, play bad and get rich.


Sure, but I'd rather uninstall than play a game that wastes your time with this 1 portal nonsense. Either make it optional or revert it. Its just bad game design and doesn't allow people to play how they want to. It creates unneeded stress while doing a map, why should everyone always be afraid of losing their map,loot and exp 24/7? That isn't a fun game lol its sooooo trash
For me it comes down to this: The game teaches you that you are allowed to make mistakes.
You lose some exp, the mobs reset and the boss gets his health back. And then when you get to maps those rules suddenly get changed.
Even from a world/lore perspective it does not make sense that the portals disappear without explanation (are the cats from monster hunter using the portals to bring me back to my hideout?).

What I think would be a good solution is a gold cost (based on the tier of map) to reopen the remaining portals to the map.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:


Sure, but I'd rather uninstall than play a game that wastes your time with this 1 portal nonsense. Either make it optional or revert it. Its just bad game design and doesn't allow people to play how they want to. It creates unneeded stress while doing a map, why should everyone always be afraid of losing their map,loot and exp 24/7? That isn't a fun game lol its sooooo trash


It has been 30 days already. You call this game trash and threaten to uninstall and leave every-single-days, few times per day, even. Why ?
Why do you US masochits when you do that to yourself ??
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dwqrf#0717 wrote:
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Toforto#2372 wrote:


If you want "challenge" go play hc ssf. The standard Softcore mode shouldn't have mechanics that so blatantly waste your time. This is why those other gamemodes exist, for people who think the game is too "easy". No reason why the rest of the 95% playerbase needs to suffer just because a few people wanting the game to be a certain way.

Other people don't have to play the game exactly the way you do. The vast majority hates 1 portal per map, and it needs to be changed. ARPGs by nature are casual and easy, if you're looking for a challenging game this isn't even the right genre to be trying lol


-1001.

Why should other people forced to play the way you want ?

ARPGs aren't nor casual, nor easy, by nature.

If you are looking for a non self challenging game, it isn't this one.


With 6 portals Nobody is forcing you to take all 6. That is a choice you can make. With 1 portal everyone IS FORCED to play a certain way.

You can choose to play SSF HC in a trade league by not trading and manually deleting your toon on the first death.

You are forced to character deletion if you play in HC. If you like to be forced to do things then you are in the minority. If you like to force others to do things then you have some nasty character traits.

Options = choice
No options = Forced

So if you are arguing for 1 portal then you want to force all others who are against it to play your way.
All who are arguing for 6 portals want to have options to play one way or the other.
Last edited by Kodavor#1200 on Jan 3, 2025, 9:43:11 AM
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Kodavor#1200 wrote:
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dwqrf#0717 wrote:
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Toforto#2372 wrote:


If you want "challenge" go play hc ssf. The standard Softcore mode shouldn't have mechanics that so blatantly waste your time. This is why those other gamemodes exist, for people who think the game is too "easy". No reason why the rest of the 95% playerbase needs to suffer just because a few people wanting the game to be a certain way.

Other people don't have to play the game exactly the way you do. The vast majority hates 1 portal per map, and it needs to be changed. ARPGs by nature are casual and easy, if you're looking for a challenging game this isn't even the right genre to be trying lol


-1001.

Why should other people forced to play the way you want ?

ARPGs aren't nor casual, nor easy, by nature.

If you are looking for a non self challenging game, it isn't this one.


With 6 portals Nobody is forcing you to take all 6. That is a choice you can make. With 1 portal everyone IS FORCED to play a certain way.

You can choose to play SSF HC in a trade league by not trading and manually deleting your toon on the first death.

You are forced to character deletion if you play in HC. If you like to be forced to do things then you are in the minority. If you like to force others to do things then you have some nasty character traits.

Options = choice
No options = Forced

So if you are arguing for 1 portal then you want to force all others who are against it to play your way.
All who are arguing for 6 portals want to have options to play one way or the other.


Exactly. People are just asking for player agency in this game.
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Kodavor#1200 wrote:


With 6 portals Nobody is forcing you to take all 6. That is a choice you can make. With 1 portal everyone IS FORCED to play a certain way.

You can choose to play SSF HC in a trade league by not trading and manually deleting your toon on the first death.

You are forced to character deletion if you play in HC. If you like to be forced to do things then you are in the minority. If you like to force others to do things then you have some nasty character traits.

Options = choice
No options = Forced

So if you are arguing for 1 portal then you want to force all others who are against it to play your way.
All who are arguing for 6 portals want to have options to play one way or the other.


No, that's now how this works.

PoE2's mapping is designed around having only one portal. That's the reality.

Changing the design to have six portals "because I want to be able to die from time to time" would only result in forced devs balance making the six portals maps more dangerous, or making the one portal map less dangerous. Which would ultimately throw off the balance of the whole game.

I have an easier solution : stop dying / stop complaining about dying.
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dwqrf#0717 wrote:
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Kodavor#1200 wrote:


With 6 portals Nobody is forcing you to take all 6. That is a choice you can make. With 1 portal everyone IS FORCED to play a certain way.

You can choose to play SSF HC in a trade league by not trading and manually deleting your toon on the first death.

You are forced to character deletion if you play in HC. If you like to be forced to do things then you are in the minority. If you like to force others to do things then you have some nasty character traits.

Options = choice
No options = Forced

So if you are arguing for 1 portal then you want to force all others who are against it to play your way.
All who are arguing for 6 portals want to have options to play one way or the other.


No, that's now how this works.

PoE2's mapping is designed around having only one portal. That's the reality.

Changing the design to have six portals "because I want to be able to die from time to time" would only result in forced devs balance making the six portals maps more dangerous, or making the one portal map less dangerous. Which would ultimately throw off the balance of the whole game.

I have an easier solution : stop dying / stop complaining about dying.


If you are homeless, just buy a house!!!

Classic ^^

People like options. They always will. That will never change. Don't fix what's not broken. Come on. Its that simple. Its working already!!! Use it!
Last edited by Kodavor#1200 on Jan 3, 2025, 9:59:59 AM
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Kodavor#1200 wrote:
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dwqrf#0717 wrote:
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Kodavor#1200 wrote:


With 6 portals Nobody is forcing you to take all 6. That is a choice you can make. With 1 portal everyone IS FORCED to play a certain way.

You can choose to play SSF HC in a trade league by not trading and manually deleting your toon on the first death.

You are forced to character deletion if you play in HC. If you like to be forced to do things then you are in the minority. If you like to force others to do things then you have some nasty character traits.

Options = choice
No options = Forced

So if you are arguing for 1 portal then you want to force all others who are against it to play your way.
All who are arguing for 6 portals want to have options to play one way or the other.


No, that's now how this works.

PoE2's mapping is designed around having only one portal. That's the reality.

Changing the design to have six portals "because I want to be able to die from time to time" would only result in forced devs balance making the six portals maps more dangerous, or making the one portal map less dangerous. Which would ultimately throw off the balance of the whole game.

I have an easier solution : stop dying / stop complaining about dying.


If you are homeless, just buy a house!!!

Classic ^^


If you think being able to survive in poe is as difficult as buying a house then there really is only one answer for you. And the devs have even stated it.
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