Map drop rate is unsustainable

I have noticed that map bosses tend to drop T14-15 maps a lot more than regular mobs and elites. If i don't do maps with bosses i can almost never get maps or i get trash T12-13 maps no matter how juiced they are.

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LaNSa#2186 wrote:

This is literally first time hear something like this and I dont have this problem. This problem is 100% in your end

What are we doing wrong? We’re happily taking suggestions. We thought juicing maps to t15/26 200% plus corrupted; and tablets in 6 towers in proximity and corrupting maps plus atlas all to waystones was enough to get atleast one map return out of 10 spent. But we didn’t even get a t14 return. Please provide tips. Graciously appreciated
Literally 200% maps, atlas all to maps, 6 juiced tower effects. We all saved a lot to get the tablets and roll the maps and here we are, out about 60ex combined, and no one has any drops or even a t14 to show for it

spec into all of the things on the atlas tree related to map sustain. % to drop a tier higher and quantity. Do maps with map bosses. Do the 3 to 1 reforge if you have to. I haven't had any problem sustaining T15's

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Anton__Chigur#9285 wrote:

spec into all of the things on the atlas tree related to map sustain. % to drop a tier higher and quantity. Do maps with map bosses. Do the 3 to 1 reforge if you have to. I haven't had any problem sustaining T15's

Thank your for your insight, but as previously stated, this has already been done and has been removed as a variable. I have even gone as far to copy Maxroll or other websites. All were the same as what I was running. My Atlas is not the culprit here

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Anton__Chigur#9285 wrote:

spec into all of the things on the atlas tree related to map sustain. % to drop a tier higher and quantity. Do maps with map bosses. Do the 3 to 1 reforge if you have to. I haven't had any problem sustaining T15's

also pack size is important

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LaNSa#2186 wrote:

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Anton__Chigur#9285 wrote:

spec into all of the things on the atlas tree related to map sustain. % to drop a tier higher and quantity. Do maps with map bosses. Do the 3 to 1 reforge if you have to. I haven't had any problem sustaining T15's

also pack size is important

I appreciate your feedback. But pack size and all your other atlas suggestions were already discussed in OP. And have provided zero help to situation. Again thanks, but been there , done that

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Beer42O#8112 wrote:

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Aragoness#2100 wrote:

I find this weird, cuz even playing solo I'm sustaining t15 rly well. Most of the times I drop at least one t15 when running a t15 map sometimes two and even when I dont drop a single one and that is rare, I already have a bunch of t14 for the recombinator.

It’s possible I’m missing something? I/we hope? We juice towers with tablets. We laid atlas with waystone drop rate and plus to waystone lvl. Pack size. We juice maps to 200%+ and then corrupt. And run. Never get returns. I’ve tried solo, thought it was that. I tried group, same thing. I though it was bc I’m console and no loot filter, maybe I’m simply not seeing them, but I invite pc people and they confirm no drops. What I’m I doing wrong? How much more can I juice maps? 6 towers with tablets, 200% maps, corrupted, maxed waystone atlas…. Games pay to play

Do you alc and exalt your maps?

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LaNSa#2186 wrote:

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Beer42O#8112 wrote:

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Aragoness#2100 wrote:

I find this weird, cuz even playing solo I'm sustaining t15 rly well. Most of the times I drop at least one t15 when running a t15 map sometimes two and even when I dont drop a single one and that is rare, I already have a bunch of t14 for the recombinator.

It’s possible I’m missing something? I/we hope? We juice towers with tablets. We laid atlas with waystone drop rate and plus to waystone lvl. Pack size. We juice maps to 200%+ and then corrupt. And run. Never get returns. I’ve tried solo, thought it was that. I tried group, same thing. I though it was bc I’m console and no loot filter, maybe I’m simply not seeing them, but I invite pc people and they confirm no drops. What I’m I doing wrong? How much more can I juice maps? 6 towers with tablets, 200% maps, corrupted, maxed waystone atlas…. Games pay to play

Do you alc and exalt your maps?

All maps are brought to atleast 200% and then Vaal / corrupted. So yes I regal/alch/chaos/exalt/vaal every map
I appreciate your reply. Thanks. But not a variable I’ve missed

Based on reply’s it seems this may be some crazy crazy example
Of rng and multiple days of no returns. I find it hard to believe. But it would appear we’re doing everything right. Just not sure why we haven’t gotten not even one t15 map
Return in 20+ t15 juiced runs. It’s not possible. Pay to win. Wish someone had the end alll fix. But also expecting to be banned based on previous threats from ggg via pm

Love the game. Not interested in the threats. Also don’t want to pay to play, not in rmt sense, rather, that my group has to spend every penny we make in currency to buy t15s and tablets and it never comes back. Aka not sustainable. What gives

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It’s possible I’m missing something?

I don't think you are, I'v been doing kinda the same here. I usually juice w/ towers to get more rituals, breachs or just to irradiate it and always corrupt to try to get a t16. Are you doing bosses? I found that any time I do a boss on a t15 or t16 I drop 2 t15 waystones, almost like is hard coded.

Also are you playing minions? Completely unrelated, but maybe not. I found that any time I was playing my infernalist minomancer build and did rituals on t15 maps I rarely made more than 1k points to use on the ritual. My friends were taking 2~3k points and my biggest was something like 1.2~1.5k but most times 9XX points even ons maps w/ 4 spots. I believe this has something to do with the minions killing stuff and maybe not counting as a kill or something or maybe is something else IDK. Since I abandoned that character to play my Warbringuer I started getting the same values per ritual as my friends.