PoE 1 was intentionally left alive, exactly so PoE 2 can be different. So what is the problem?

Do you actually believe it's a lie and PoE 1 will die?

Do you believe it will live but you wanted the new shiny graphics for it?

Etc what is it, why can't you accept it's different games and one might not be for you?



Btw, personally I don't think I would even like PoE 1 to have 2's graphics, not sure it's lighting PBR or what but it has kind of bit more painted on look and different style. I like it but wouldn't fit 1 for me, would rather have them just bring up textures to Kingsmarch level, and player and enemies models to latest mtx level (obviously can be handled by engine).

I also think PoE 1 will live, seems a safer option and it's one of a kind at this point, different atmosphere (bit better imo), devoted fanbase, and last but not least, different gameplay for a different though partially overlapping player base.

The problem in my view is that POE2 is too similar to POE1.

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Oblivionbringa#7895 wrote:

The problem in my view is that POE2 is too similar to POE1.

Yep.

I played quite a bit of PoE but it wasn't quite my style.

PoE 2 sounded good but it's clinging to too many bad mechanics.

The problem is that GGG PROMISED PoE1 would not be affected by PoE2 yet here we are being affected by it with even more delayed league starts and having to explain why it's a problem to the single digit IQ Andy's who keep making these posts.

I dont' see an issue at all honestly. I expected them to be different games.

All I'm seeing on the forums is a bunch of Veterans talking about how much they want mechanics/systems from PoE 1 in PoE 2 though. Like Crafting.

Without realizing they're 5% of the playerbase that's left over, after 12 years. And everyone else quit because of stuff like this.

As far as I was concerned. PoE 2 was a chance to go in, and fix the systematic issues that are making the game a tedious, grindy time-wastey game. Make it more appealing to players. Less convoluted. Less bloat.

Loot is a huge area that they could improve. Crafting existed in PoE 1 because the loot was terrible. You had to craft gear. I don't think the system brings any value to anyone but people who like to craft. Most players just want the boss to explode in loot and they go oh look, a dope new crossbow. But PoE doesn't let this happen, and being forced to trade or craft to proceed just ruins the game for so many people.


The fact that so many Veterans are on the forums dismissing complaints about the game as 'git gud' and 'I've spent 3 mortgages worth of Money on GGG, I DEMAND they listen to my opinion on what I want in PoE 2, because I want to play it for another 30,000 hours" Has me very very worried for the game.

Also the fact that streamers are having so much say in it. Fuck those guys seriously.

They put so much emphasis on late-game and bosses that much of the rest of the game is unpolished. All to appeal to the people who nolife this game. Rather than the millions of potential customers that don't sit hunched in front of a computer screen staring at a chestpiece while they exalt it 400 times.


They have a chance to improve combat. Loot. They have a chance to make a better skill gem system.(which they failed honestly). They definitely improved bosses already. And there's more substance to the base game. I really think the last thing they should is worrying about late game content. It's early-access. The expectation that people would have a complete game and be able to spam it endlessly like they do PoE 1 is entirely unreasonable.

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Akedomo#3573 wrote:

I dont' see an issue at all honestly. I expected them to be different games.

All I'm seeing on the forums is a bunch of Veterans talking about how much they want mechanics/systems from PoE 1 in PoE 2 though. Like Crafting.

Without realizing they're 5% of the playerbase that's left over, after 12 years. And everyone else quit because of stuff like this.

As far as I was concerned. PoE 2 was a chance to go in, and fix the systematic issues that are making the game a tedious, grindy time-wastey game. Make it more appealing to players. Less convoluted. Less bloat.


The fact that so many Veterans are on the forums dismissing complaints about the game as 'git gud' and 'I've spent 3 mortgages worth of Money on GGG, I DEMAND they listen to my opinion on what I want in PoE 2, because I want to play it for another 30,000 hours" Has me very very worried for the game.

Also the fact that streamers are having so much say in it. Fuck those guys seriously.

They put so much emphasis on late-game and bosses that much of the rest of the game is unpolished. All to appeal to the people who nolife this game. Rather than the millions of potential customers that don't sit hunched in front of a computer screen staring at a chestpiece while they exalt it 400 times.


They have a chance to improve combat. Loot. They have a chance to make a better skill gem system.(which they failed honestly). They definitely improved bosses already. And there's more substance to the base game. I really think the last thing they should is worrying about late game content. It's early-access. The expectation that people would have a complete game and be able to spam it endlessly like they do PoE 1 is entirely unreasonable.

I know you are making things up now

Have you played PoE2 at all? The end game is not what anyone would call polished, not even GGG

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The problem is that GGG PROMISED PoE1 would not be affected by PoE2 yet here we are being affected by it with even more delayed league starts and having to explain why it's a problem to the single digit IQ Andy's who keep making these posts.

The game is completely playable. Go have fun.

If you need a new league every 2 months to keep the game interesting for you. Well, sorry. But the expectation of endless content for a game is and always has been unreasonable.

It's also unreasonable to expect that there wasn't going to be a few hiccups in the first month or two, while they worked through some of the major issues with their 80 person team, on PoE 2.


Have you tried. Living life outside of PoE? You sound awfully butthurt that your main dopamine coping mechanism has slightly less playability. Maybe you should get that checked out. You're taking your frustrations out on 'andy's' online. Not healthy.

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Akedomo#3573 wrote:

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The problem is that GGG PROMISED PoE1 would not be affected by PoE2 yet here we are being affected by it with even more delayed league starts and having to explain why it's a problem to the single digit IQ Andy's who keep making these posts.

The game is completely playable. Go have fun.

If you need a new league every 2 months to keep the game interesting for you. Well, sorry. But the expectation of endless content for a game is and always has been unreasonable.

It's also unreasonable to expect that there wasn't going to be a few hiccups in the first month or two, while they worked through some of the major issues with their 80 person team, on PoE 2.


Have you tried. Living life outside of PoE? You sound awfully butthurt that your main dopamine coping mechanism has slightly less playability. Maybe you should get that checked out. You're taking your frustrations out on 'andy's' online. Not healthy.

Lots of trolls like you come here from Diablo, we get it, you feel superior to everyone.

PoE leagues were every 4 months for the longest time, this latest one is almost double that.

Next you'll be arguing that 2+2=7

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SilentTheGray#2578 wrote:

I know you are making things up now

Have you played PoE2 at all? The end game is not what anyone would call polished, not even GGG

I never said the end-game was polished?

Do you lack basic reading comprehension skills?

I clearly said the whole game was unpolished. Because they emphasized having stuff for sweaty idiots to do while they spam their 5th 70 to late game.

I would've rathered they come out with 3 acts. And leveling stopped at 45, and they worked on polishing the rest of the game before moving forward. But here we are. With people complaining about 'not enough to do and it's only been 2 weeks' on the forums.

The lack of self awareness with people is amazing. Not realizing that they're the top 1% of gamers, and they're always expecting games to cater to their desire to min-max it and nolife it.

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SilentTheGray#2578 wrote:

Lots of trolls like you come here from Diablo, we get it, you feel superior to everyone.

PoE leagues were every 4 months for the longest time, this latest one is almost double that.

Next you'll be arguing that 2+2=7

Yup, everyone's a troll when they disagree or call you out on your entitlement, right?

You're being entirely unreasonable in your expectations about PoE 1 not having any issues. They were bound to happen.

The fact is. It's been a huge launch. And it's also DECEMBER. And people are taking time off to spend it with their families. A league taking an extra month or two was going to happen.

Go play something else. Or continue fuming here on the forums that your precious PoE 1 dopamine fix was SABOTAGED. I don't give af.

Just so long as you realize how unhealthy it is.

I'm also not from Diablo. But feel free to keep making the assumptions that "I'm the enemy" and thus, justify your thought patterns.

Probably been playing PoE 1 longer than you have.

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SilentTheGray#2578 wrote:

The problem is that GGG PROMISED PoE1 would not be affected by PoE2 yet here we are being affected by it with even more delayed league starts and having to explain why it's a problem to the single digit IQ Andy's who keep making these posts.

Sure that's somehow valid, esp if you're perfect and demand perfection, but for someone throwing single digit IQ Andy around, it's a bit funny you didn't really understand.

Why is it a problem that PoE 2 is different if PoE 1 lives, why ask to remove dodge and replace with dashes, why remove zone reset, slow down mobs, weaken bosses, in short, make it like 1? Is it you want new graphics, content, fear that 1 will not be supported and you'll be left with just 2 etc

Maybe not a question for you actually, also current league was huge and next one already announced, sure there's delay but can you really blame them. IDK it's a big early access in a hard genre.