Giving up on the game - I can't get past Act 2 (no chance in hell)

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HtFde3666#8853 wrote:

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Poe2WarriorMan#6401 wrote:

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HtFde3666#8853 wrote:

Cheers,



There is a thing called hand/eye coordination. You got it or you don't -

Such a wildly false statement.

You arent born with hand eye coordination sorry no.

You train it just like balance. Its a skill, one you have an issue with. So yes, skill-issue would be appropriate here.

You wanna quit every time you are faced with challenge? Fine quit.

Dont make excuses for "hand eye coordination" as if its some unique trait you are born with or without.

You can train up to a certain level. Just as you can improve your running skill But if you assume anyone can be Usain Bolt by just trying hard enough you're delusional, sorry.

Let's assume Hand/Eye is from 0 to 100. If I have 25, I can train to maybe 30 or 40 - and that's the end of the tether. As someone who has no issue playing drums, I don't claim that you just need to train harder when your brain isn't wired for each limb to act autonomously. Yes, you can do basic patterns if you try long enough but as soon as we move to complex patterns you either have it or you don't - and no trying harder will help you.

Agree with this. Latent ability has something to do with where you will plateau, you can improve and definitely get better. Eventually you will begin to plateau and the effort to improve to reach that point you will start to see a lot less reward for even a dedicated amount of energy/time put in.

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HtFde3666#8853 wrote:

You can train up to a certain level. Just as you can improve your running skill But if you assume anyone can be Usain Bolt by just trying hard enough you're delusional, sorry.

Let's assume Hand/Eye is from 0 to 100. If I have 25, I can train to maybe 30 or 40 - and that's the end of the tether. As someone who has no issue playing drums, I don't claim that you just need to train harder when your brain isn't wired for each limb to act autonomously. Yes, you can do basic patterns if you try long enough but as soon as we move to complex patterns you either have it or you don't - and no trying harder will help you.

Luckily, you don't need Usain Bolt levels of coordination to beat the act two boss.

I still think this is mostly a gear issue. You can overgear and overlevel, which will be the best and fastest solution here, instead of demanding the game to change or to just give up.

Don't get me wrong here, I understand your frustration, I've been there myself on some of the bosses in this game. But once my build "got going" they were FAR less of a problem.

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Phrazz#3529 wrote:

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HtFde3666#8853 wrote:

You can train up to a certain level. Just as you can improve your running skill But if you assume anyone can be Usain Bolt by just trying hard enough you're delusional, sorry.

Let's assume Hand/Eye is from 0 to 100. If I have 25, I can train to maybe 30 or 40 - and that's the end of the tether. As someone who has no issue playing drums, I don't claim that you just need to train harder when your brain isn't wired for each limb to act autonomously. Yes, you can do basic patterns if you try long enough but as soon as we move to complex patterns you either have it or you don't - and no trying harder will help you.

Luckily, you don't need Usain Bolt levels of coordination to beat the act two boss.

I still think this is mostly a gear issue. You can overgear and overlevel, which will be the best and fastest solution here, instead of demanding the game to change or to just give up.

Don't get me wrong here, I understand your frustration, I've been there myself on some of the bosses in this game. But once my build "got going" they were FAR less of a problem.

Idk breh, the main issue i voiced is a generic problem with the game in of itself its not even limited to just that boss fight alone.


Visual clutter, clear cut.

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DreadlordMephisto#4974 wrote:

You can train up to a certain level. Just as you can improve your running skill But if you assume anyone can be Usain Bolt by just trying hard enough you're delusional, sorry.

Let's assume Hand/Eye is from 0 to 100. If I have 25, I can train to maybe 30 or 40 - and that's the end of the tether. As someone who has no issue playing drums, I don't claim that you just need to train harder when your brain isn't wired for each limb to act autonomously. Yes, you can do basic patterns if you try long enough but as soon as we move to complex patterns you either have it or you don't - and no trying harder will help you.

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Agree with this. Latent ability has something to do with where you will plateau, you can improve and definitely get better. Eventually you will begin to plateau and the effort to improve to reach that point you will start to see a lot less reward for even a dedicated amount of energy/time put in.

So its a skill issue thank you for agreeing. Hand-eye coordination is a skill.

But you guys are making it out to be like you have to be Davinci himself painting the mona lisa, or a carrer open heart surgeon.


Its a video game. Its act II. Get over ego and excuses and try again.

Skill issue is an appropriate response.

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Poe2WarriorMan#6401 wrote:

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DreadlordMephisto#4974 wrote:

You can train up to a certain level. Just as you can improve your running skill But if you assume anyone can be Usain Bolt by just trying hard enough you're delusional, sorry.

Let's assume Hand/Eye is from 0 to 100. If I have 25, I can train to maybe 30 or 40 - and that's the end of the tether. As someone who has no issue playing drums, I don't claim that you just need to train harder when your brain isn't wired for each limb to act autonomously. Yes, you can do basic patterns if you try long enough but as soon as we move to complex patterns you either have it or you don't - and no trying harder will help you.

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Agree with this. Latent ability has something to do with where you will plateau, you can improve and definitely get better. Eventually you will begin to plateau and the effort to improve to reach that point you will start to see a lot less reward for even a dedicated amount of energy/time put in.

So its a skill issue thank you for agreeing. Hand-eye coordination is a skill.

But you guys are making it out to be like you have to be Davinci himself painting the mona lisa, or a carrer open heart surgeon.


Its a video game. Its act II. Get over ego and excuses and try again.

Skill issue is an appropriate response.

Burger detected.

End games got even worse.

One shot mechanic
Access to map gone
10% decrease Exp
All progression gone.

This game is sadly not for casual and chill.
I wish they have easy difficulty/League option so I
can chill after work and still progress with the build.

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Prügelprinz#9311 wrote:

In my opinion, there is no way you can't beat him if you made it to the end of Act II on your own. Try harder.
If you have bad hand/eye coordination (honestly not sure what that even means) or a disability I am sorry for you. But a game shouldn't be designed around the 1% with such issues.

Can't agree, I went through act2 ruthless with little to no problem, maybe dieing once or twice but I have tried to do this boss so many times I am in the same situation as the OP. I can't even get motivated to go in, farm and try again as these hard long running boss fights is something I just don't like and can't do.

I am like the OP, I have to keep my attention going just to even tell which way the boss is facing at any point of time and while doing that I can't keep focus on everything else going on in the screen. I will have trouble finding the shield 30% of the time when the winds come out.

There is a reason I play minion builds, I don't need to keep finding the boss with my mouse to activate a skill or spell.

Finally: 63 attempts and the guy is beaten!

I "only" had to do the following:

Grind 4 extra levels
Completely switch the build to Frost Bolt/Cold Snap and rework part of the tree for this
Spend time in maps to commit new build to muscle memory

Even then I had a very slow phase 1, since Frost Wall was way too much visual clutter to see which way the boss was looking. This ended 2 attempts with the new build early. So I had to limit myself to:

Repeat until Sandstorm:
Frost Bomb
dodge behind him if needed
Frost Bolt
dodge behind him
if boss == frozen:
use cold snap on him
else:
Frost Bomb / Frost Bolt combo

During Sandstorm:
just spam Frost Bolt and Cold Snap to blow up the adds - much easier than with Spark!

After Sandstorm:
Don't do anything until the boss starts moving again to not get caught in an animation lock and redo the "repeat until sandstorm" routine

I got hit ONCE - so this is effing boring and just tedious, not hard, challenging or whatnot once you remove the visual clutter. It just dragged the fight out needlessly.

Once in phase 2:
Concentrate on movement, dodge boss attacks, stay at range, cast Frost Bomb and Frost Wall until boss freezes - close in, use Cold Snap and resume routine.

Almost died twice because of the spitting portal I managed to dodge into (I had only 9% lightning resistance at the time which I could/should have boosted with a few runes and a topaz ring)

After the sucker was dead: No elation, no YES!!! - only, Thank god this annoying fight is over. But I have a good idea now how to build my Ranger once he gets to that point. Cold damage - lots of it, paired with some exposure mechanism.

My critique stands: Any skillset that creates visual clutter makes the fight impossible for me - so I had to rely on Frost Bomb + Frost Bolt as they do not obscure the boss. Phase 2 dito - just has to be done at range. Simple skills, no clutter - although it's not as critical, so Frost Wall worked out well, I just had to wait for the old one to go away and not cast 2 on top of each other - trying this resulted in another death as I couldn't see shit again.

While I do agree that Jamanra is the hardest boss in the whole game and it took me a frustrating 10+ times to beat him on my first character, I do feel this is a combination of stubbornness and a skill issue on your part.

While I expect some of these pain points to be smoothed over in the coming months, for the time being there are several simple solutions to be had.

I would suggest trying to trade for some better gear as you should've gotten at least 1 exalt by now, but if for whatever reason you haven't gotten one, try farming up a little bit. Get a level or two and farm a tiny bit of currency/gear with more lightning resists as Jamanra does majority lightning (with some physical I think)

You've so got this and I think with a bit more preparation you can totally beat him. I would love to see what build you're running though because you might just be playing one of the harder classes that isn't as well balanced right now. Feel free to shoot me a message if you want some help too as I have a few higher level characters :)

One trick that many people don't try is to run behind the boss. Monster melee attacks are not auto confirms in PoE, they're invisible cones in front of the enemy. Which means you can circle behind monsters the same way you can in Souls games.

If some boss or monster seems to be super hard from far away, try to get close to it. Its basic attacks might be way easier to avoid from up close than its massive AoEs from far away. Colossus and White Monkey both are far easier if you stick very close to them.