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1. Read the thread name - you are speaking for all arpg fans
2. Why you typed this?
3. You are. Your take "he could do act 1 in 12 hours. Yeah" clearly says you are speedster 200 maps per minute fan
But this is NOT equals to arpg fan.
1. No, I am giving my opinion. My conclusion from playing the game is that it was not made for ARPG fans, it was rather made as a new hybrid of PoE ruthless and dark souls.
2. I typed it because you made logically faulty conclusion.
That you can be a fan of ARPGs and still like PoE 2 does not mean PoE 2 was made for ARPG players. Just like you can be a fan of vanilla and still enjoy chocolate, and that wont mean the chocolate cake was made for the vanilla enjoyers.
3. No. If you are incapable imagine anything in between "12 hours in act 1" and "200 maps per minute" that is on you.
12 hours for act 1 is atrociuos and if it really took that long for the average player the game would be even more doomed. The point I was making is that the game was praised by a "12 hours in act"-player which made me realise that the game is for that kind of player and not for me.
Your last statement is as fallacious as the one you tried to correct. Just because someone with X attribute liked the game does not mean is is not for you or that such variable is even very relevant on the conclusion.
I finished ACt1 in less than 2 hours.. still the game is clearly for me. What is very true is that the game is NOT for zoom zoomers, not saying you are one, just stating that that crowd will not find much appeal here
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it is not a game for you stop projecting yourself to everyone.
It is not perfect but they will tweak it for sure. Poe1 was ridiculous. The loot was ridiculous the clear speed was ridiculous. It needed to be nerfed.
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Posted byIspita#4020on Dec 10, 2024, 7:11:00 AM
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Of course you are giving YOUR ONLY opinion, but pretending like you are reperesenting some part of aRPG fanbase.
You are NOT. Do not forget this.
No. Still just stating my opinion and conclusions are representing only myself. I am not speaking for anyone else.
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There is no logical faults. You said (you already forgot?) "this is just not a game for ARPG fans" - but I like this game and I am definetely an aRPG fan.
That is the logical fault. "I like vanilla and I really like this chocolate cake, there for it must be made for vanilla lovers". You are missing the fact that you can be a fan of both vanilla and chocolate at the same time and enjoy the chocolate cake for reasons that are completely distinct from your vanilla enjoyment.
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There is NOTHING bad in spending more hours in the any act than some speedster could take as bearable amounts.
This is NEW game, the guy could been testing some builds, characters, skills, just exploring or farming at the end.
Even devs been saying - do not rush!
Anyway, this doesnt make a guy as NOT aRPG fan or the game as not for aRPG fans.
Not for speetser RMT farmers? Yes, definetely and this is AWESOME.
Not for aRPG fans? BS.
Again, I am not a "speedster" by any stretch of the imagination.
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Posted bySickness#1007on Dec 10, 2024, 7:14:22 AM
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Your last statement is as fallacious as the one you tried to correct. Just because someone with X attribute liked the game does not mean is is not for you or that such variable is even very relevant on the conclusion.
I agree, but that was not the claim. That part was only an anecdote to explain my personal thought process.
"A player played act 1 for 12 hours therefor the game is bad" is not my position.
"Seeing a player post his enjoyment of finishing act 1 after 12 hours helped me put the vast amount of pieces together to form the overarching conclusion that the game is not made for ARPG fans" is my position.
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Posted bySickness#1007on Dec 10, 2024, 7:19:34 AM
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Of course you are giving YOUR ONLY opinion, but pretending like you are reperesenting some part of aRPG fanbase.
You are NOT. Do not forget this.
No. Still just stating my opinion and conclusions are representing only myself. I am not speaking for anyone else.
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There is no logical faults. You said (you already forgot?) "this is just not a game for ARPG fans" - but I like this game and I am definetely an aRPG fan.
That is the logical fault. "I like vanilla and I really like this chocolate cake, there for it must be made for vanilla lovers". You are missing the fact that you can be a fan of both vanilla and chocolate at the same time and enjoy the chocolate cake for reasons that are completely distinct from your vanilla enjoyment.
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There is NOTHING bad in spending more hours in the any act than some speedster could take as bearable amounts.
This is NEW game, the guy could been testing some builds, characters, skills, just exploring or farming at the end.
Even devs been saying - do not rush!
Anyway, this doesnt make a guy as NOT aRPG fan or the game as not for aRPG fans.
Not for speetser RMT farmers? Yes, definetely and this is AWESOME.
Not for aRPG fans? BS.
Again, I am not a "speedster" by any stretch of the imagination.
You continue digging yourself - why?
If you are stating your own opinion - then speak for yourself only and not from imagined aRPG fans
"This chocolate cake is not for chocolate cake fans", but I like chocolate cakes and I like this cake too and this is definetely chocolate cake.
Auctioneer House - is a MUST!
'POE2' is not 'POE1 2.0'! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3614313
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Posted bySilverWF#6383on Dec 10, 2024, 7:21:17 AM
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1. I am speaking for myself.
2. So what? You can be a fan of two different things at once.
3. I am not a "200 hours per minute" nerd and I still find PoE2 to be the worst ARPG ever even with my preference for slower less spammy ARPGs like diablo 2, titan quest and grim dawn.
If you're seriously trying to say that PoE 2 is slower than Titan Quest, then you're just trolling and shouldn't really be wasting developers time on the Feedback forums.
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Posted byMEITTI#3999on Dec 10, 2024, 7:22:20 AM
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The issue with your posts is that plenty of stuff in it is just plain wrong.
Act 1 isn't extremly long or anything. Try full clearing Act 1 in PoE 1 on league start whiteout vendor reciepes and all that stuff, preferably on a Templar so it feels extra bad.
The Bosses don't have ridiculous amounts of HP and don't take an eternity to beat. Thats just plain untrue. If it's the case, maybe try speccing for some dmg and/or try to get a better Weapon.
But yes, your very obviously not a speedster.
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Posted byaDoreMe#3888on Dec 10, 2024, 7:23:19 AM
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The issue with your posts is that plenty of stuff in it is just plain wrong.
Act 1 isn't extremly long or anything. Try full clearing Act 1 in PoE 1 on league start whiteout vendor reciepes and all that stuff, preferably on a Templar so it feels extra bad.
The Bosses don't have ridiculous amounts of HP and don't take an eternity to beat. Thats just plain untrue. If it's the case, maybe try speccing for some dmg and/or try to get a better Weapon.
But yes, your very obviously not a speedster.
That is hilarious. Yes try playing PoE1 and you will see that it far less of a slog, even as a templar. It's not even close. Poe1 picks up the pace quickly.
Bosses do have ridiculous amounts of HP. Far more than any true ARPG relative to the character damage and to other mobs. It's not even close.
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Posted bySickness#1007on Dec 10, 2024, 7:31:00 AM
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1. I am speaking for myself.
2. So what? You can be a fan of two different things at once.
3. I am not a "200 hours per minute" nerd and I still find PoE2 to be the worst ARPG ever even with my preference for slower less spammy ARPGs like diablo 2, titan quest and grim dawn.
If you're seriously trying to say that PoE 2 is slower than Titan Quest, then you're just trolling and shouldn't really be wasting developers time on the Feedback forums.
Much slower.
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Posted bySickness#1007on Dec 10, 2024, 7:31:30 AM
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1. I am speaking for myself.
2. So what? You can be a fan of two different things at once.
3. I am not a "200 hours per minute" nerd and I still find PoE2 to be the worst ARPG ever even with my preference for slower less spammy ARPGs like diablo 2, titan quest and grim dawn.
If you're seriously trying to say that PoE 2 is slower than Titan Quest, then you're just trolling and shouldn't really be wasting developers time on the Feedback forums.
tbh titan quest at very end can be pretty fast... althoug yeap.. it starts very slow
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