T17s are still an overtuned mess that are also annoying to roll

i am not having trouble with him i just cant facetank his attacks. i cant stand stationary for the whole fight like i do in most cases. these bosses do far too much damage, i suspect for this very reason. so people have to learn the fight mechanics and cant facetank

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

the point is that t17 are still overtuned...thats what the thread is about. a character that can go AFK in maps and tank wave 15 kosis should be able to tank t17 bosses also. if they designed these maps so people cant tank them then they should say so instead of saying that they double nerfed them...my friend can tank them but his gear is worth multiple mirrors.

They did nerf both damage and life of bosses significantly with the release of this league and did a later nerf with the change and removal of some t17 mods.
You don't need gear worth multiple mirrors to tank t17 but some solid defense would be worth to invest to.
It does sound like your build is heavily reliant on the on block ES gain which favors mapping more than bossing. So basically if you get hit hard without further good defensive layers you're still going to die.

The boss you struggle with is already the easiest out of all the t17 maps and if you die to it in a map without any scary mods it's just a indicator that you do lack defensive layers in some way, or rely heavily just on block on its own.

i dont struggle with him...my god, you people twist everything around to try and make me sound as bad as possible. can you facetank all his attacks without moving out of the way?

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

i dont struggle with him...my god, you people twist everything around to try and make me sound as bad as possible. can you facetank all his attacks without moving out of the way?

You are twisting the whole conversation on your own.....you claim T17s are overtuned simply because you can't facetank an attack. Which you seem to think you are entitled to because your build can facetank other bosses in very different environments with very different modifiers. Obviously....everyone is going to respond to the literal "problem" you mention: being unable to facetank the boss.

If you don't struggle, then what the heck is your complaint here?

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mefistozxz wrote:

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

i dont struggle with him...my god, you people twist everything around to try and make me sound as bad as possible. can you facetank all his attacks without moving out of the way?

You are twisting the whole conversation on your own.....you claim T17s are overtuned simply because you can't facetank an attack. Which you seem to think you are entitled to because your build can facetank other bosses in very different environments with very different modifiers. Obviously....everyone is going to respond to the literal "problem" you mention: being unable to facetank the boss.

If you don't struggle, then what the heck is your complaint here?

struggling would be not being able to complete the map at all. or needed all 6 portals. if i dodge the beam i can do the fight. people just want to insult others and this is indirect way is allowed since its not directly breaking the tos. " your build is bad" you lack skill" you lack defenses" etc

Wow you need to dodge the attack of a boss in t17 to complete the map!

The horror!

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

i dont struggle with him...my god, you people twist everything around to try and make me sound as bad as possible. can you facetank all his attacks without moving out of the way?

You said that you can't face tank everything of the boss so you do struggle in some way as it seems to be a problem for you that your character is not durable enough to face tank everything.

As is for your question, my main character of this league and previous league is able to face tank him fine along with other boss fights.
Only my alts might hit a wall with face tanking some stuff but I also don't really create them with the main objective to face tank 100% of the game and gain close to 100% afk viable immortality.
They are still able to clear t17 and Ubers deathless as dodging stuff is still effectively the best mitigation in this game.

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

struggling would be not being able to complete the map at all. or needed all 6 portals. if i dodge the beam i can do the fight. people just want to insult others and this is indirect way is allowed since its not directly breaking the tos. " your build is bad" you lack skill" you lack defenses" etc

Come on man....read the title of the thread. Read any of the responses. Where does yours fit?

You came in wanting to "flex" that you have a build that can idle all other content, but then in multiple posts now you backtracked your original post saying that t17s are....NOT challenging and you don't struggle with them.

So they AREN'T overtuned, even by your own admission now, 3 pages later. You just don't want to have to move. It has nothing to do with personally attacking you in any way...you were the one that did that all on your own by making disconnected comments unrelated to the topic.

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mefistozxz wrote:

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

struggling would be not being able to complete the map at all. or needed all 6 portals. if i dodge the beam i can do the fight. people just want to insult others and this is indirect way is allowed since its not directly breaking the tos. " your build is bad" you lack skill" you lack defenses" etc

Come on man....read the title of the thread. Read any of the responses. Where does yours fit?

You came in wanting to "flex" that you have a build that can idle all other content, but then in multiple posts now you backtracked your original post saying that t17s are....NOT challenging and you don't struggle with them.

So they AREN'T overtuned, even by your own admission now, 3 pages later. You just don't want to have to move. It has nothing to do with personally attacking you in any way...you were the one that did that all on your own by making disconnected comments unrelated to the topic.

the tile of the thread is that t17 is overtuned and i came in to agree. thats where my post fits. if my build cant tank the boss attack then its def overtuned. simple as that. i can tank everything else i tried, and no i didnt try ubers but i suspect they are still easier than t17 boss even after the supposed nerfs.

its almost funny how i just agree with the OP's thread title but somehow my posts are unrelated to the thread

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

the tile of the thread is that t17 is overtuned and i came in to agree. thats where my post fits. if my build cant tank the boss attack then its def overtuned. simple as that

Or it's just a clear obvious sign that your character is not as durable as you expect as others can already face tank those fights week one or two with a way lower budget and investments into a character.
It also feels like that you just downright ignore map mods and don't expect them to have much impact since you gave sim 15 as benchmark test, something that's completely random with each run and each combination of mods you can get.