grace / determination now a rip off???
" Thank you very much for posting that. Now back on 3.20 I wasn't using anything of those above ( ok maybe dawnbreaker and armour/evasion gear) and my dps was already 25% up with just defensive gear. Now let's check them all one by one: Coil. Probably best way to deal with phys today , requires more resists and ailment immunity. Eater implicit. Kinda mandatory nowadays, wasn't even used on softcore, when eaters got introduced. Dawnbreaker. Probably nerf incoming next season, not available to most builds for gameplay reasons (2h, other mandatory uniques) Endurance charges, had 2 minimum on affliction with grace and determination, it was pretty much hot garbage, whether I was playing with them or without them and they were always on. And this is where the joke starts: Aspect of the crab. Rofl!!!!!!! like I can even have open suffixes. If I do I'll probably go for spell suppression, res or stats anyways and with not even looking on an attack build. Herald of purity and ring. AHAHAHHAHHAHSHAOHA . SRY is this the hardcore forum? Ofc no more space for more uniques, or even rmr. Chaos golem. Now you do realise that all your golems will be 2shotted unless u invest some points in minion clusters right? |
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" The insufferable irony of privating your profile to not be attacked for your characters, then doing the same to others. I was going to type out a more thoughtful response to your other reply, but you are undeserving of it. " Not sure what your problem is? Endurance Charges are freaking goated this league. They were buffed to also provide 4% less elemental damage taken per on top of the physical mitigation they provide. You shouldn't have stopped at 2, and they are just a piece of a larger puzzle. It wasn't just last league when people stacked tons of Endurance Charges for that very reason. The list, as is, is not even complete. If all you're offering is vitriol then please move along and let the adults talk The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge. Last edited by ArtCrusade#4438 on Aug 1, 2024, 6:30:06 AM
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" the guy takes apart your argument, does a good job, provides personal example you cant argue against it and dismiss it as vitriol also please never use words goated and adults in single post ever again POE2 should be the ruthless vision experience and POE1 should be the zoom power fantasy sandbox to capture both audiences.
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" You would think that if your Path of Exile journey peaks in yellow maps. I'm not going to pretend for a second as if we are speaking as equals here. The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
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" there is ZERO support in the game for this playstyle (staff casters are top-left, melee is bottom-left). same with marauder spectres. no wonder it hits flat when you try it. as for the offensive chest, you mean unique? then yes, bit sad. but with rares.. you just do what top-right part of the tree is supposed to do: stack ES/EV and just accept getting hit from time to time. you ES buffer is precisely for that - accept hits, recharge have you seen current top ES/EV bases? i hit a f.. 1000 ES chest in 6 dense fossils (yep, lucky, yep top rolls but still). do you understand what 1000 ES chest does to ES/CI/hybrid builds on the top-right of the tree? ive also rolled 5000 EV chest. do you know what Trickster can do with that? i like people doing POB warioring and playing the numbers instead of the game. the cult of 'max hit' is strong. just ignore it and play the damn game btw - i fully expect a strong shift from 'checking melee' to milking new ES bases with INT stacking very soon. improved melee still lacks the base numbers, numbers you can easily get from large ES pool + Ephemeral Edge. |
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" I second that. Especially with how fast you can leech back the few hits you take directly those ES stacking builds are beyond broken. In the process of procuring an Ephemeral Edge with RT in our private league then I can get to it as well. 👀 The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
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" where do i insult you? you did everything correct by going endu stacking/armour wearing str characters for this league :) I did the same cause other playstyles got wrecked. You just want to maintain that other playstyles didn't get hit disproportionately for some reason. On this we fundamentally disagree. Nothing is "necessary" in this game. But determination was simple easy to go to option. Now its gone for that use case. Now lets look back at how you guys conduct an argument: lol they didnt kill x, lol they private account, lol they looked at our account - only we are allowed to do that!, lol you insult us (where?), lol breathe, lol step away, lol bad look, lol out of hand, lol calm down, lol odd behaviour.... You dont argue, you just sidestep the issue or use logical fallacies and claim someone is pissed until they actually get pissed with how disingenuous you are, misstep and get muted by the moderators. Whenever you actually do reply with something concrete - fact thats can be argued against - you get instantly shut down. Not even by me, by anyone who was passing by and understands how the game works. POE2 should be the ruthless vision experience and POE1 should be the zoom power fantasy sandbox to capture both audiences.
I petition to return all the fun stuff that was removed or nerfed over the years back into POE1. |
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" what you say sounds right for trickster less so for anything non trickster what do if want twohand assassin using life? not possible, ggg doesnt support this - by your own statement. well thats the problem, they should support it in fact, prior to this determination change, there were more support for it, but suddenly not any longer this is what peeves me - constant shutting down of alternative building avenues, even if they are meme to begin with all builds become monotonous "do one of few things that works" or go home that homebrew meme 2h assassin wasnt breaking the meta, if was barely working as is, but as usual, got fucked the most and when someone rightfully complains - people who are affected the least and arent feeling the effects descend into thread trying to prove that nothing changed POE2 should be the ruthless vision experience and POE1 should be the zoom power fantasy sandbox to capture both audiences.
I petition to return all the fun stuff that was removed or nerfed over the years back into POE1. |
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ggg also doesnt support spectre marauders nor jugg trappers (and many, many more). it is what it is.
imho this is a good change. it balances things out a bit. previously top-right/right builds had all the power but none of the drawbacks (squishiness). even more so since introduction of most stupid defensive mechanic (suppression). there was no reason to play bottom-left part of the tree because all it gave was questionable tankiness and no power. and you could steal that tankiness via determination and few similar tricks making bottom-left parts completely unused (check passive heatmap from 3.24) right now you can play assassin - get ludicrous damage potential for cheap but you have to work for tankiness (not 'max hit' - this is bs metric). i think it is much healthier to the game this way just dont try to squeeze square peg into star-shaped hole, wont work anymore (but, you can get LOTS of Armour on your assasin - there is a timeless jewel keystone 'ignore all stat requirements' - use it. get yourself 4k royal plate + 4k from gloves/boots/helmet - thats 8k BASE, determination makes that into ~14k pre-flask). but you have to squeeze it somehow into a build + socket colouring is going to be pain) Last edited by sidtherat#1310 on Aug 1, 2024, 7:31:26 AM
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I still remember when determination gave no armor. That fact that it gives a rough 1000 - 1500 base armor is pretty generous imo
And lots of builds I am seeing still do the setup where you get a decent base line from a combination of just ironskin granite and determination getting you to like 10k - 20k armor which is plenty for all but the really spooky hits that obviously need to use stuff like phy reduction to account for. |
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