A change to melee (yes this again)

I mean I kinda get that but I have a zerker in league str stacking without even using OG sin and his damage is ridiculous like deletes most bosses in a second or 2 so defence isn't really needed - can't do delve at all so the playability comment is definitely relevant and makes sense. I mean though to get the ring from Sanctum you need to be good or you need to make a lot of currency doing decent content so they must have decent playability or big shock using over powered caster/ranged class (dont think melee could to an untouched sanctum that easy) so it's gone full circle back to balance lol

you don't have to have original sin to do ridiculous damage. its just replica alberons.

Yeah 100% - it's also so stupid that normal alberons are soooo gimped out and pointless, should just delete those they bring nothing but heart ache to new players who buy them by mistake and then ask in global why their builds aren't working, lol

I have a chieftan thats vf totems (was stronger with vengeant cascade) thats pretty dang strong. It was from crucible league. before chieftan got ruined for totems.

It used regular alberons with bls.

I've never played or tried a totem build - in my mind its just you dropping a bunch of totems and running around so you don't get killed? Or does your char do ton of damage too? What do the boots add to the build? (actually curious)

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I've never played or tried a totem build - in my mind its just you dropping a bunch of totems and running around so you don't get killed? Or does your char do ton of damage too? What do the boots add to the build? (actually curious)

Its a strength stacking build. the char is name is VolcanicBallsEnshit if you want to check it out. I used follow a lot of gorathas work outside of all the pf bow stuff. I can't stand that kind of nonsense. Every time I play a bow build I fall asleep and rip or respec around 92-94, he is pretty safe to follow if you play hc though.

And yes its pretty strong, it was a lot stronger with vengeant cascade. I havent tried it with nimis but it easily does all normal bosses and t16 mapping content. Ubers were doable in crucible league with vengeant cascade being a thing.

By the way they kind of nuked chieftan totems pretty hard when they made changes to the ascendancy.

Ah yep all good! I googled a few vids on totem builds various ones over various versions - TBH I dont think I've ever given Cheiftain any love, kinda sad haha!