Please remove death penalty or make another server for that

Glad to hear exp penalty stays after campaign. Hope they will set it at 20% or at least leveling will be a lot slower.

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for many people its a bad mechanic and currently with all the clutter it is not even skillbased,
prove me wrong run a 100% deli map with beyond fully juiced and show me how you manually dodge each attack and projectile :D
saying it as someone who lvl'd to 100 a few times and even made 40/40 last league
so i guess im entitled to say that the exp penalty is utter crap

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

as always i see the usual trolls here xD

for many people its a bad mechanic and currently with all the clutter it is not even skillbased,
prove me wrong run a 100% deli map with beyond fully juiced and show me how you manually dodge each attack and projectile :D
saying it as someone who lvl'd to 100 a few times and even made 40/40 last league
so i guess im entitled to say that the exp penalty is utter crap

This isn't a "you have to be this tall to ride" kinda conversation so it's irrelevant how many level 100s you have had or how many challenges you completed. Neither of those things are difficult bars to clear given time invested and experience with the game.

Or let me rephrase that: you having reached level 100 previously doesn't give more weight to your opinion compared to anyone else participating.

What matters is what OP asks for, which is to completely wipe XP penalty from the game, and with an ask like that I strictly say no.

At the end of the day you are entitled to your opinion just as much as I am to mine. Keep it civil and don't call other people names and all shall be peaceful

Exp penalty is dumb. +1

I also agree with the OP.
I dont like any punish-core mechanics other than hardcore.
You die you loose. You opt in this mode as a challange, it makes many things meanigfull thats ultra cool.
10% xp loss doesnt do that. its not worth enough to counter the random deaths by making character better. instead i just move towards less rippy mechanics and only doing safe ones if i want to lvl up. It is boring and tedious, that is just worse expearience for me. Nothing added, no feeling of acomplishment, nothing.
Same thing goes for AG and spectres.
Just create opt in game mode, call it sane-core and make it real softcore where you cant loose anything but time/portals
We could see how many ppl stay in current softcore.

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ArtCrusade wrote:

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

as always i see the usual trolls here xD

for many people its a bad mechanic and currently with all the clutter it is not even skillbased,
prove me wrong run a 100% deli map with beyond fully juiced and show me how you manually dodge each attack and projectile :D
saying it as someone who lvl'd to 100 a few times and even made 40/40 last league
so i guess im entitled to say that the exp penalty is utter crap

This isn't a "you have to be this tall to ride" kinda conversation so it's irrelevant how many level 100s you have had or how many challenges you completed. Neither of those things are difficult bars to clear given time invested and experience with the game.

Or let me rephrase that: you having reached level 100 previously doesn't give more weight to your opinion compared to anyone else participating.

What matters is what OP asks for, which is to completely wipe XP penalty from the game, and with an ask like that I strictly say no.

At the end of the day you are entitled to your opinion just as much as I am to mine. Keep it civil and don't call other people names and all shall be peaceful

there is a slight difference between how players like me and OP voice their opinions and how people like you voice their opinions
its to denounce our opinion because its "obviously" wrong

i dont care how much "weight" it has to you
i am entitled to have an opinion because i explored the way to 40/40 and the way to 100. ill always stand against those people who denounce others for not liking the exp penalty ...

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

there is a slight difference between how players like me and OP voice their opinions and how people like you voice their opinions
its to denounce our opinion because its "obviously" wrong

i dont care how much "weight" it has to you
i am entitled to have an opinion because i explored the way to 40/40 and the way to 100. ill always stand against those people who denounce others for not liking the exp penalty ...

My very concise argument was that the penalty is a consequence of dying and that there are ways to counteract it. The only person in this thread trying to denounce people's opinions has been you, yet you are here calling other people troll. We don't even see the irony, do we?

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ArtCrusade wrote:

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

there is a slight difference between how players like me and OP voice their opinions and how people like you voice their opinions
its to denounce our opinion because its "obviously" wrong

i dont care how much "weight" it has to you
i am entitled to have an opinion because i explored the way to 40/40 and the way to 100. ill always stand against those people who denounce others for not liking the exp penalty ...

My very concise argument was that the death penalty is a consequence of dying and that there are ways to counteract it. The only person in this thread trying to denouncing people's opinions has been you, yet you are here calling other people troll. We don't even see the irony, do we?

"git gud" isn't something I consider a good way to counteract dying in this game. You might be able to get away with that in Souls games, because fights in those are hard, yet ultimately fair. In Path of Exile, literally anything that can happen at any moment and just instantly kill you, will happen. 1shots, offscreens, hazards being buried under a mountain of particle effects, rares rolling wombo-combo modifiers that melt your face off. The only way to well and truly account for all of these variables is to make a near-ZDPS tank that can eat uber Maven's memory puzzle explosion, and I doubt many people would find a lot of enjoyment doing that, nor would many be able to afford it.

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Pizzarugi wrote:

"git gud" isn't something I consider a good way to counteract dying in this game. You might be able to get away with that in Souls games, because fights in those are hard, yet ultimately fair. In Path of Exile, literally anything that can happen at any moment and just instantly kill you, will happen. 1shots, offscreens, hazards being buried under a mountain of particle effects, rares rolling wombo-combo modifiers that melt your face off. The only way to well and truly account for all of these variables is to make a near-ZDPS tank that can eat uber Maven's memory puzzle explosion, and I doubt many people would find a lot of enjoyment doing that, nor would many be able to afford it.

Except that is not what I said and what you said is hyperbolic at best.

I don't like the death penalty but it hasn't been bothering me much lately. I'm a casual player, so my top-out is level 95-98 anyway. The mindless garbage pile of loot that drops in this game bugs me a lot though. I only keep a unique item if I've never seen it before (almost never). The rest is just to make currency & trade for whatever pieces I want; & I keep a set of levelling items. So 99.9% of drops just stay on the ground--ridiculous waste.

As far as if the death penalty encourages me to improve my gear or skill tree or learn fight mechanics, I effing do that anyway or else the game isn't fun at all. I've min-maxed the hell out of my current Frost Blades Raider (on a budget), trying multiple different items & skill trees. I've learned so much just by seeing what other people have done via poe.ninja & build guides. Still prefer Raider over Trickster, even though I played both last league. The biggest thing that made me want to try to be a better player was getting a RMT ban some number of leagues ago.

TLDR: i can live with the death penalty but loot sucks.