Hope the TOTA league mechanics never make it to the core

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Nomancs wrote:

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

since GGG goes quantity over quality, tota will most likely go core even in such an unbalanced state.

making a build specifically for this removes the point of playing any build for usual content
why not making heist, sanctum runners only viable for their mechanics?

Build that works for tota can be 100% funcional in other content, lol.

you sure? my boneshatter jugg with 30d of investment couldnt even reach r500
i guess its "killissue" like people say nowadays

somehow i managed to get up to 1600 with the voidsphere cheesing build lol :D

"can" is not necessarily "will" work.

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

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Nomancs wrote:

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

since GGG goes quantity over quality, tota will most likely go core even in such an unbalanced state.

making a build specifically for this removes the point of playing any build for usual content
why not making heist, sanctum runners only viable for their mechanics?

Build that works for tota can be 100% funcional in other content, lol.

you sure? my boneshatter jugg with 30d of investment couldnt even reach r500
i guess its "killissue" like people say nowadays

somehow i managed to get up to 1600 with the voidsphere cheesing build lol :D

"can" is not necessarily "will" work.

Lol, 2k rank WITHOUT void sphere, doing uber bosses with it.
So yes, I'm sure because IT IS ALREADY WORKING.

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Nomancs wrote:

Lol, 2k rank WITHOUT void sphere, doing uber bosses with it.
So yes, I'm sure because IT IS ALREADY WORKING.

i mean cool it works for you, my build can do most content including the uber bosses just not a fast mapper.
i cant do anything about getting oneshot from offscreen by those storm conduits.
at higher ranks specifically when the dmg gets so absurdly high and i didnt even started about the spear dancers and 1 warchief that has infinite pierce.
so there are several units that can oneshot me from outside the screen and i cant do anything about it even with my dodge-blind

means im playing entirely different game
tota shouldnt go core and i stand by that opinion

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

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Nomancs wrote:

Lol, 2k rank WITHOUT void sphere, doing uber bosses with it.
So yes, I'm sure because IT IS ALREADY WORKING.

i mean cool it works for you, my build can do most content including the uber bosses just not a fast mapper.
i cant do anything about getting oneshot from offscreen by those storm conduits.
at higher ranks specifically when the dmg gets so absurdly high and i didnt even started about the spear dancers and 1 warchief that has infinite pierce.
so there are several units that can oneshot me from outside the screen and i cant do anything about it even with my dodge-blind

means im playing entirely different game
tota shouldnt go core and i stand by that opinion

You just claimed that builds good for tota can't do any other content, thats a nice flip.

I don't like the mechanics, I quite like the tatoos.

If this league goes to core, I am hopeful that the scarcity of access will keep the coins at good enough value so it would be worth picking them up, and it won't be just a sub 1 alchemy worthless junk.

I am sure I won't touch this league mechanic ever. So by all means, put it to the core.

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Nomancs wrote:

You just claimed that builds good for tota can't do any other content, thats a nice flip.

yeah whatever dude, im not gonna argue with you anymore

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Nomancs wrote:

Lol, 2k rank WITHOUT void sphere, doing uber bosses with it.
So yes, I'm sure because IT IS ALREADY WORKING.

Is it an expensive quasi immortal build? Because then you can ignore the rest of my post. I know that such builds exist and using them to "prove your point" IMO rather provides evidence against your point.

Whats your avg tournament win time?
How many matches do you unintentionally lose?
How careful do you need to be playing it?

(I have tried DPS build myself and it doesnt compare with a TotA build. At least mine was much slower and much more expensive. What makes TotA builds stand out is that they are cheap to make, easy to play and very efficient at what they were made for.)

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Zrevnur wrote:

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Nomancs wrote:

Lol, 2k rank WITHOUT void sphere, doing uber bosses with it.
So yes, I'm sure because IT IS ALREADY WORKING.

Is it an expensive quasi immortal build? Because then you can ignore the rest of my post. I know that such builds exist and using them to "prove your point" IMO rather provides evidence against your point.

Whats your avg tournament win time?
How many matches do you unintentionally lose?
How careful do you need to be playing it?

(I have tried DPS build myself and it doesnt compare with a TotA build. At least mine was much slower and much more expensive. What makes TotA builds stand out is that they are cheap to make, easy to play and very efficient at what they were made for.)

10-15min, 10 total from 0 to 2k, regulary careful

I climbed with my normal build until rank 900 something, still had 100% win rate, but made a dedicated build to finish the matches faster. My normal build was taking 15-20 min per tournament.

The biggest issue is the revive timer. If we could use those nice artifacts we put on our warriors for our character, we wouldn't need a dedicated build that much.

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Nomancs wrote:

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Zrevnur wrote:

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Whats your avg tournament win time?
How many matches do you unintentionally lose?
How careful do you need to be playing it?
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10-15min

Thats a pretty wide range. 10 min is way better than 15min. So that doesnt say much.
Dedicated builds supposedly can do it in 8min. Me playing mine (incomplete, SSF, missing 2 big improvements yet, likely wont ever be as good as trade league builds though) cant do it in 8min though.

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Nomancs wrote:

10 total from 0 to 2k

Ok. Dedicated build is almost impossible to lose but 10 lost matches isnt much.

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Nomancs wrote:

regulary careful

That was my main issue with DPS build attempt. It needed careful play. The TotA build doesnt. Its ridiculously OP vs what its up against.

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6_din_49 wrote:

I climbed with my normal build until rank 900 something, still had 100% win rate, but made a dedicated build to finish the matches faster. My normal build was taking 15-20 min per tournament.

Similar experience except that it probably took me 20-25 min rather. Normal build just doesnt compare with TotA build. And you can make working TotA build with some scraps instead of expensive gear.