Mandatory ruthless in poe2 will be massive fail..

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Varana wrote:

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Phrazz wrote:

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Sure, PoE is getting updates often, but when was the last time we saw real mechanical changes? You know, not just additional content? Better/new animations? Mechanical overhauls? No, PoE isn't getting improvements, it's getting additions.

Well, there's the new graphics engine they introduced a fortnight back.

Admittedly this intermittently ruins gameplay for one of my few remaining guildies still playing, and leaves me with D2-level resolution whenever something dangerous happens, which is not a good sign for PoE2. And it's certainly not "better" than what came before, for us.

But it's certainly a major mechanical update, just not a helpful one.

a pc from 2010 will run poe1 on max without issues.

i dont know what are u talking about..

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Ivanovv83 wrote:

a pc from 2010 will run poe1 on max without issues.

i dont know what are u talking about..

Well, lucky you.

I'm not lying, I'm not exaggerating, I am literally describing my experience since the latest patch.
My PC is not new, but was decent (about $4K for the base unit) when I got it 5 years back, it struggles on no other games (including D4) and it was fine on PoE until July 23rd. My guildmate likewise had no problems until the new PoE engine.

This should not be too complex to grasp, but since you do not know what I am talking about I'll lay it out in a simpler fashion, step by step.

I have a major problem with the new graphics engine.
I am not the only one seeing it, by any means (not only my lived experience, do check Reddit, or the Feedback forum).
It was not there until the graphics "update".
Therefore I conclude the "update" caused it.
Our systems may not be those of very top-end gamers but have respectable performance, can play other games on the market, and are probably not unrepresentative of the general PC field.
So if we both suddenly see problems it implies that many other people will find the game unplayable if it uses this engine.
This is bad for any game but in particular an FTP game which relies on word-of-mouth marketing and sales to happy players.

I've endeavoured to phrase this simply, but please let me know if you still do not know what I'm talking about, or if you need an even more basic explanation of why this represents a problem?

GGG can sugarcoat it all they want and so can the 'slow gameplay' fans. But it was painful to watch various streamers play at Exilecon and it surely took away all excitement or hype from some of the other good elements planned for POE 2.

Whether POE2 is ruthless version 2 or not only time will tell but there is no denying that POE 2 gameplay mirrored too much of POE Ruthless than POE1.

The reality is that for me (and probably for many others) time that we can spend on gaming is limited and any game that goes in the direction of slowing down is a problem.

Also, I feel that demand for a fast play or zoom zoom playstyle is predominant in POE fan base, however GGG should do their own analysis on their fanbase preferences. And if they decide either that predominantly POE fan base wants slow play or they do not care about the fast playstyle/zoom zoom fanbase and POE 2 is indeed closer to Ruthless--well that's there decision but it is not for me or fans like me.

Anyways, for many of us it was indeed a major let down and the direction POE 2 seems headed concerning from what we saw at Exilecon.

If POE 2 does turn out Ruthless V2 and POE 1 doesn't incorporate some of the good stuff from POE 2 then probably it would be adieu from some of us or most of us. It would be sad but hey there are other things to be do and experience. Definitely not going to spend hours and hours in painful struggle to move forward in a Ruthless version of POE 2.

Before Ruthless or Slow Gameplay fans jump up and down, I have no issues in you enjoying or liking it.

Cheers

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

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Ivanovv83 wrote:

It will totally kill any hype for the new game.

it already did for me. before exilecon i was so looking forward to poe 2. now not so much

Same here. Before exilecon the hype was real now I don't even want to play poe 2 anymore.

all ppl wanted was new story + new items+ better graphics.

what they got was another CHris "VISION"



Sadly the vision of the majority of the community isnt that.
And soon GGG will face that.

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stormyknight wrote:

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1453R wrote:

It's not mandatory, it's not Ruthless, and it doesn't matter how many billions of people complain about "mandatory Ruthless". Y'all need to chill, please. The demo was artificially inflated, and even then - Kripparian found a semi-decent spear in his forty-five minutes of Huntress gameplay and went from Struggle Bussing to two-tapping most white critters when he didn't one-tap the weaker ones. Loot was dropping aplenty, all the streamers had bunches of gear drop that they didn't bother picking up or using.

Look, I get that y'all Religion of Zoom folks are incurably addicted to Zoom Zoom Click Boom trivialize-the-entire-game-for-free-by-flipping-the-market-then-complaining-about-league-mechanics-on-Reddit, but if you don't watch what you're seeing of Path of Exile 2 with a critical, understanding eye? If you ignore every last little thing the developers say about it because you're too busy being Offended at how slow-paced and unforgiving the demo was? You won't get anything useful out of ExileCon.

I mean listen to what you are saying ? On one hand you chastise everyone for enjoying THE CURRENT GAME, the one the zoomers enjoy and then on the other you again persecute us for not liking the exact opposite to what we have now ?

I dont care about poe2, not at all, im not interested in playing poe1 in a new engine for another 10 years to get back to the content level we have now. Stick that idea in your pipe.

nahh you NOT allowed to enjoy poe 1 and you NOT allowed to think that poe 2 is not for you . you MUST like it and you MUST jump over hoops to defend vs valid arguments

How are bad-faith arguments valid? The game isn't mandatory ruthless, that's just something he made up.

I m like 100% certain due to all this whining the actual game will be twice or thrice faster than the demo. Then it will be even faster with each new league coz power creep

It's not that it will fail, It's already failed.

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Ivanovv83 wrote:

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Varana wrote:

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Phrazz wrote:

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Sure, PoE is getting updates often, but when was the last time we saw real mechanical changes? You know, not just additional content? Better/new animations? Mechanical overhauls? No, PoE isn't getting improvements, it's getting additions.

Well, there's the new graphics engine they introduced a fortnight back.

Admittedly this intermittently ruins gameplay for one of my few remaining guildies still playing, and leaves me with D2-level resolution whenever something dangerous happens, which is not a good sign for PoE2. And it's certainly not "better" than what came before, for us.

But it's certainly a major mechanical update, just not a helpful one.

a pc from 2010 will run poe1 on max without issues.

i dont know what are u talking about..

lets see a video of it then

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Dr1MaR wrote:

I m like 100% certain due to all this whining the actual game will be twice or thrice faster than the demo. Then it will be even faster with each new league coz power creep

Yup