Is d4 really that bad?

Haven't bought it but this popped up on my front page and it doesnt even look like diablo fans dont bother defending their own game on their own echo chamber subreddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/15dpd85/if_diablo_4_had_as_many_features_as_poe_most_of/
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yamface wrote:
Haven't bought it but this popped up on my front page and it doesnt even look like diablo fans dont bother defending their own game on their own echo chamber subreddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/15dpd85/if_diablo_4_had_as_many_features_as_poe_most_of/


its not bad, its just got alot less endgame and Season Rewards are easy to complete.

In time it could be a solid game. I prefer its combat over POE.. but i prefer POE's Content.


For a Casual Player, D4 will be a much better game than POE as it takes no effort to complete challenges to the cosmetics.



People tend to Make threads on Both forums on How bad the "Other" Game is.

Why does one have to be better ? Just play em both or dont. POE is in a Content hole for the next 2 years with 1 league every 5 months so people get bored over here it seems.
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SPYDER680 wrote:
People tend to Make threads on Both forums on How bad the "Other" Game is.

Why does one have to be better ? Just play em both or dont. POE is in a Content hole for the next 2 years with 1 league every 5 months so people get bored over here it seems.


yea thats how it usually goes, but this time people were disagreeing with the op and mentioned that they prefer too much content than a bare bones game. first time ive seen it like that
I mean its ok. It just lacks the things I love about poe. Shitload of bosses, great crafting system, fun endgame content, so much build variety.

d4 is great if you want to just hop in and play. If you do my biggest word of advice is to not look at any build guides just play the game. That shit is shallow and those guides and speeding through lvling will ruin the game for you imo.

Enjoy
Its very badly designed. You can easily get you items that you want within a few level of reaching the next tier of difficulty. The game isn't even challenging until level 98 so it is boring until you reach that level.
i think its pretty awful. im playing it right now with a friend, so its playable, just about.


for my tastes its biggest issue is that the combat feels awful the builds feel awful, everything is slow and clunky. d3 has way better combat.


its not its only problem.


skill system is shit tier, d3 has a better skill system. d3 you got 6 runes that all change ur skill dramatically. this game has 3 little nodes for each skill, you pick 2 of them and they dont rly change the skill significantly at all.


item system is shocking terrible.


the mechanics are really bad, if you look up vids on the way damage, life, defences etc are calculated its convoluted idiocy.


campaign is so bad. endless fetch quest followed by escort quest followed by travelling a million miles to click and thing and get told some dialogue and then go to this empty dungeon and walk through with no mobs for ages just to click another thing and take it back to this other place to hear some talking and then get sent to another place to escort a thing and then fetch a thing and hear some dialogue... fucking dreadful, actually painful to play through.


monsters are boring, world feels a bit plastic, everything is just little mini events. tons of talking u cant skip through, you go into dungeons, like the games maps, you find little events that spawn monsters, click on one and have to sit there listening to unskipable talking for a significant amount of time before the mosnters spawn, after u kill the mobs you have to listne to 3 different people talking to you before it drops the items, cant skip it. the whole endgame is structured around backtracking to boss areas, full clearing areas, everything arpg players find tedious and hate.




its quite astoundingly bad. i played d1 on release, d2, d3, i still play d3, ive played every season of diablo 3 pretty much. 15k hours poe, 100s of hours of torchlight, grim dawn, wolcen, last epoch, titan quest, its not like im some poe fanboy who just hates other games. i genuinely think d3 is a better game at this point. it has potential to be better than d3 if they keep updating it.

i was expecting a shit game with good gameplay and good graphics, it turned out to be a shit game with shit gameplay and good graphics.
I love all you people on the forums, we can disagree but still be friends and respect each other :)
You know the only reason I even touched that game was to talk MASSIVE shit to it LOL and my friends to stop bothering me.

1) Shit progression game ends at level 50 basically

2) Shit itemization

3) The ONLY good boss or I consider end game is something Uber Lilith that's it

4) Shit end game

5) Shit season 1 mechanics which is basically INSTEAD OF ONE ELITE you GET TWO ELITES! But get this it's only about 10% of the time the season mechanic isn't active 100% of the time.

Yo yo even the dads of D4 were like ''There's really nothing to do'' LMAO imagine that a casual dad is saying NOTHING TO DO.
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Last edited by Coconutdoggy#1805 on Jul 31, 2023, 11:02:30 PM
D4 is the prefect game for people that don't like to research and follow build guilds for POE. If you get stuck in Act9 or then D4 is prefect for you.

But if you've ever made it to red maps D4 feels very lack luster. the gear is sad. The bossing is horrific. the only thing to do is grind to 100 which takes longer then it should.

In POE even if you absolutely hate all end game content. you can still just farm more currency. That in it self is fun and you feel the value you hold. when you finally have 50 div.

Well I had 90 mill gold on D4 and I had nothing of value. and that took weeks!!!
D4 was quite exciting to play over the early access weekend. Sadly, half way through campaign, gameplay became seriously repetitive, items boring, builds boring, same dungeons on repeat. D4 is really bad, just lazy unacceptable trash. Blizzard finally took the franchise to its grave, what a shame. Ah well who cares.

I’m worried about PoE’s future tho lol
d4 really isnt that bad, just that people are measuring it up against modern arpgs.

the end game may feel unappealing to many, but the game overall is quite good.

tho i would say this topic should go in off topic rather than general
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