I'm pretty sure I've had enough...

Oh yea you can totally stop getting one shotted if you put enough resource in tankiness.

Weird I remember some guy who could afk any uber in the game but got one shot by like 3 blue mobs in a strongbox

More seriously you will get one shot no matter how much currency you put into your gear. You can reduce it, but you can't completly escape it.

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Warvald wrote:

Oh yea you can totally stop getting one shotted if you put enough resource in tankiness.

Weird I remember some guy who could afk any uber in the game but got one shot by like 3 blue mobs in a strongbox

More seriously you will get one shot no matter how much currency you put into your gear. You can reduce it, but you can't completly escape it.

Yeah. That was probably Quin with his Jugg that could tank Maven's memory game.
People analysed his character and found out he had not much (if any) evansion/block so he got hit by almost every projectile from the on death effects. And that was on a high tier tile in Lake of Kalandra where damage scaling gets insane later on.

Getting ele weak res capped is also very important especially on RF builds.
You always want to be around 25% above your max resist, dont know the exact number on top of my head. Otherwise you just die to ele weakness or flammability.

Just wanted to point that out because of the mentioned degen problem. Maybe you just kill yourself with RF every time you get cursed :-D

Can also easily result in one shots even on tanky characters without RF.

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Vepa wrote:

Getting ele weak res capped is also very important especially on RF builds.
You always want to be around 25% above your max resist, dont know the exact number on top of my head. Otherwise you just die to ele weakness or flammability.

Just wanted to point that out because of the mentioned degen problem. Maybe you just kill yourself with RF every time you get cursed :-D

Can also easily result in one shots even on tanky characters without RF.

The number is more like 40% over cap, if you're doing red maps.

Note to the wise: there's a Defense Mastery node that states "Your elemental resistances cannot be lowered by curses."

I don't know if I'll ever take another defense mastery node again. Not only does that node turn the common "Players are Cursed with Elemental Weakness" into a free mod for you, but it also denies any critter in the game that curses you. No necromancer curses, no "randomly curses" Archnem mods, nada. You don't have to spend a ton of time and currency overcapping your resistances, find another ~150+% resistance numbers somewhere. It's especially amazing for builds that are starved for suffix slots and have to pay in blood for every Resist modifier on their gear. "Corrupted Blood Cannot be Inflicted On You" is so lame compared to flipping the bird finger at all resist-lowering curses, given that Corrupted Blood is so much rarer than resist curses and easier to deal with using a flask (or just paying for a jewel).

Obviously some builds won't have any issue just overcapping their resistances, but for the normies/poors that can't afford to ensure every piece of gear they wear has 100+% total res on it, knowing that this Defense Mastery node exists is super useful.

pretty sure its 30% max at red maps. They lowered it. https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Elemental_Weakness#Area_mods

anyway its good to keep that in mind and either get enough resistance/reduced curse effect or the defense mastery.

i personally dont plan my builds with the defense mastery because its just a wasted point with good resists on gear. You want resist anyway so just get higher number ;-)
i agree that its nice to click it if you struggle with resist for the moment, overcapping is better in the long run imo because exposure can still get you without overcaped resist.

Yeah, overcapping like crazy is better for higher-end play, but gear that has 100+% total res on it as well as life, defenses, and all the other stuff you want on your gear is expensive as hell. You can easily expect to pay fifty to a hundred chaos per piece for the level of gear that gets you to 30+ overcap = or 55+, if you want to be proof against both exposure and curses - while also handling life, defenses, chaos resist, any necessary stats, crit chance/multi mods if you need those, Influenced rolls...

The one single point of Defense mastery is a lot like taking Alira to relieve resist pressure early in a league - a very useful option for lower-budget builds or people who can't flip the market effectively enough to build up several dozen divines within the first week or two of a league. Which, given the nature of the OP, seemed pertinent for this thread, heh.

It depends a lot on the build and how expensive or in my case how hard it is to craft the Gear for it, because i only play ssf/ssf hc.

If your build needs crit/accuracy/influence mods whatever on suffixes, that for sure gives the Mastery more value.
But most of my ssfhc builds dont need/want that and in this case its only life/resist/suppression for the most part, which is pretty easy to make even in ssf.

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Warvald wrote:

Oh yea you can totally stop getting one shotted if you put enough resource in tankiness.

Weird I remember some guy who could afk any uber in the game but got one shot by like 3 blue mobs in a strongbox

More seriously you will get one shot no matter how much currency you put into your gear. You can reduce it, but you can't completly escape it.

yeah I was paying attention today to few of my rips. One time it involved a cruci mob so I will just write that off, since you know- beta stage level of balance on these. Other time it was not even a hard Coves Map, i know the fight, i saw the two bosses, was far away, things between me and them. no attack animation from the golem (he is usually the pesky trouble maker) the pirate was far behind him. POP. No clue what why, just when- i def know when i died.

I wouldn't even mind the one shots, and even if they come from a difficult to avoid mechanic. Problem is- many times there is no telegraphing, no warning, not even a sense you might be in danger, and POP.

If one is bothered by this artificial difficulty, I can see why it becomes an issue. You can mitigate it like you said, but you wont escape it. Not in this game.

I think very few people would mind one shot if you could easily see them coming. But poe is a visual clusterfuck

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wullack wrote:

This is just the game telling you to buy Diablo IV and to start enjoying your free time.

Off course you could watch dozens of tutorial videos and read even more build guides only to get one shot again because why not.

Maybe POE 2 will salvage this game but right now it's garbage and the second part is at least a year away if not more.

D4 in higher tiers is more rippier than PoE as it scales pretty hard

Idk what it is about this game but you look at any other arpg people don't push as high as the 'pros' on the leaderboard and no one cares, they just shrug their shoulders and admit they don't have the time available, the gear, or the skill to match the players doing the hardest content.

But put them in PoE and they beeline straight for the hardest stuff and complain their character can't do it. It's a peculiar double standard. Is it the economic pressure? Is it the lack of content gating where any lvl 70 character in trade league can go buy a T16 map and 5 deli orbs and get wrecked on day 2? It fascinates me.

Exactly this.

Another point is people don't realize if the game was as easy as they want it to be, nobody would care to do it. This would invalidate the whole thing. Like why farm for currency in a game if you could do it with your eyes closed? People wouldn't, so there wouldn't be an economy (or many people playing) with a reason to do anything. Games literally exist right now that people say they want, but they don't actually play those games.