When will Crucible leauge end?

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AintCare wrote:
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Zerolimitz wrote:


Source? considering blizzard doesn't release avg online numbers.

but here are some facts for you





i think that says it all


That game was made to make money, it isn't even a game anymore, just a revenue generator.

Sale numbers/revenue are not an indication of quality. In htis case this would translate to player retention and replayablity.


True good thing diablo 4 is on the right track with quality and come season 1 we will find out about replayability and every game is made to make money bit silly to state that and don't get me started on player retention when it comes to poe and new player experience ;)
Last edited by Zerolimitz#7619 on Jun 23, 2023, 11:43:33 AM
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Zerolimitz wrote:


Source? considering blizzard doesn't release avg online numbers.

but here are some facts for you





i think that says it all


So? At this point Blizzard can release dung, and it will still make huge sales because they made a name for themselves when they actually released good games.

D4 has 5.2 user score and D3 - 4.2. D3 had only 20-30k online players for years now, and same will happen to Diablo 4, unless the devs actually start doing something. Meanwhile PoE will retain its 300k on launches and solid number throughout the League.

D4 forums are exploding, and streamers freaking out and losing interest.

The fact that a lot of people are ready to buy some influencer's bath fart water, doesn't make it a good product.

Really can't wait to see that Diablo fanboy copium on August when a new PoE league hits and gets ~300k at launch because they said that D4 will kill PoE for sure or at least make the playercount very dry for the next league.
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esostaks wrote:
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Zerolimitz wrote:


Source? considering blizzard doesn't release avg online numbers.

but here are some facts for you





i think that says it all


So? At this point Blizzard can release dung, and it will still make huge sales because they made a name for themselves when they actually released good games.

D4 has 5.2 user score and D3 - 4.2. D3 had only 20-30k online players for years now, and same will happen to Diablo 4, unless the devs actually start doing something. Meanwhile PoE will retain its 300k on launches and solid number throughout the League.

D4 forums are exploding, and streamers freaking out and losing interest.

The fact that a lot of people are ready to buy some influencer's bath fart water, doesn't make it a good product.

on a side note i still enjoy poe but some of the people on this forum are delusional

Really can't wait to see that Diablo fanboy copium on August when a new PoE league hits and gets ~300k at launch because they said that D4 will kill PoE for sure or at least make the playercount very dry for the next league.


What's funny is you stating user reviews because review bombing ain't a thing right? Not like it's never happened to Poe at all, right? And streamers... lol you're one of those that can't think for themselves and need a streamer to tell you if something is good or not right? Streamers are a plague to the gaming industry and also don't be fooled by the few that no life the game and then wonder why there's no content im sorry but people have jobs and for those people they are loving it for the few no lifers i could careless and reddit is plagued with said players.


Edit: this will be the last post here seems the mod is a bit of a snowflake.
Last edited by Zerolimitz#7619 on Jun 23, 2023, 12:18:57 PM
I knew someone would mention review bombing. The thing is that while review bombing is real, it cannot stop a good game. New Zelda was review bombed, and it has a score of 8.7 now on Metacritic.

If Path of Exile was review bombed, how is it sitting at 7.9? Yet D3 is still sitting at 4.2 after 11 years? Seems like an excuse for a bad game.
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esostaks wrote:
I knew someone would mention review bombing. The thing is that while review bombing is real, it cannot stop a good game. New Zelda was review bombed, and it has a score of 8.7 now on Metacritic.

If Path of Exile was review bombed, how is it sitting at 7.9? Yet D3 is still sitting at 4.2 after 11 years? Seems like an excuse for a bad game.


the sort of butt hurt neckbeardist behavoir of review bombing is extremely niche and short term, I can be a butt hurt neckbeard with the best of them but something always stops me... I'd like to call it "principles" but maybe "self respect" is better.

over the average it always evens out as you rightly point out. In POE's case
during expedition POE got thoroughly bombed on steam, but it recovered.

D4's reviews are moving towards being a representative of the average opinion at this point, a mid game, mediocre by almost all reasonable non-clear shill or lifer "fanboy" views I've seen. I say moving because certainly it takes some time for not very reasonable extreme views like "0 out of 10 because I'm angry" reviews to be diluted by more reasonable ones.

The biggest thing about Diablo's meta score is that ALMOST EVERYONE expected it to be a better game than it is. I expected casualized "I played Diablo 3 for a week in 2013, I'm a diablo veteran" shallow game systems and loot...

I didn't expect it to be LESS DEPTH THAN D3 for fucks sake.

In my subjective opinion its a 6 ish out of 10 game WEIGHTIED both up and down by multiple factors.

Trying to be honest, I am raising its score because of things I personally don't usually give a shit about cinematics and graphics bump my score up a tiny bit because even though i don't value these that high: I recognize that they are superior quality and am trying to be rational.

The combat is very good, far better than anything POE has to offer even in Ruthless mode where at least positioning matters until you get support gems. I enjoy it, its NOT as good as Lost Ark with its countering and stagger, and positional damage though which is disappointing.


BUT:

level scaling leading to NO, ZERO, NADA feeling of progression? Thats possibly the worst aspect of the game and its made me abandopn the game and wish I had refunded in time.

The end game content is is dull and the build crafting is breaindead, the loot is worse than I had hoped.

And these assholes charged $70 and have the gall to have a battlepass and expansions that surely will be paid and MTX AND...

Well you've seen the stash right? You know they are going to sell tabs... and it looks like they're going into the game trying to force more stash tab sales than POE by design. Why do I say that? Just look at how much space each tab has and also notice how a ring is the same size as a two handed sword? They're making people DEMAND they sell stash tabs... and it will work.
Pandering to players who don't want consequences for their mistakes is a perfect description of what went fundamentally wrong with D3 and 4.
If they wanted mindless mobile game time waster gameplay they sure did make some perplexing choices and marketing statements for 6 fucking years.
Last edited by alhazred70#2994 on Jun 23, 2023, 10:06:38 PM
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Zerolimitz wrote:
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esostaks wrote:
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Zerolimitz wrote:


Source? considering blizzard doesn't release avg online numbers.

but here are some facts for you





i think that says it all


So? At this point Blizzard can release dung, and it will still make huge sales because they made a name for themselves when they actually released good games.

D4 has 5.2 user score and D3 - 4.2. D3 had only 20-30k online players for years now, and same will happen to Diablo 4, unless the devs actually start doing something. Meanwhile PoE will retain its 300k on launches and solid number throughout the League.

D4 forums are exploding, and streamers freaking out and losing interest.

The fact that a lot of people are ready to buy some influencer's bath fart water, doesn't make it a good product.

on a side note i still enjoy poe but some of the people on this forum are delusional

Really can't wait to see that Diablo fanboy copium on August when a new PoE league hits and gets ~300k at launch because they said that D4 will kill PoE for sure or at least make the playercount very dry for the next league.


What's funny is you stating user reviews because review bombing ain't a thing right? Not like it's never happened to Poe at all, right? And streamers... lol you're one of those that can't think for themselves and need a streamer to tell you if something is good or not right? Streamers are a plague to the gaming industry and also don't be fooled by the few that no life the game and then wonder why there's no content im sorry but people have jobs and for those people they are loving it for the few no lifers i could careless and reddit is plagued with said players.


Edit: this will be the last post here seems the mod is a bit of a snowflake.


Reviews come from passionate people, the only passionate people defending D4 are the ones who wont play it, that's the difference.
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Strickl3r wrote:
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AbilityPoints wrote:
For myself it ends when Diablo IV is unshackled, free to reign over all ARPGs!


Oh it will reign, not just over arpgs, but over all computer games when it comes out. But it will probably be a very short reign^^

We all know where we will end up again after the hype is over.


:)
Diablo 4 is one of the worst game I have ever played. Terrible lag issues all the time and I have a 4080 and fast internet. I had fun first 2 weeks leveling 2 characters, but at the end there is absolutely nothing to do in that game. I know d4 is at the beginning and still more contents are coming, but I'm already broken. No intention to play any season.
Long life to poe. I hope in a super new league in august
i love reading comments from these people who got baited by diablo4.. ill be truthful but after 1 full lvl up i realized how empty and crappy of a game it truly is wake up n smell the coffee blizzkids they made an arpg so you and your grandparents can play couch co op yay o yaay
BiccMitchum
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AbilityPoints wrote:
For myself it ends when Diablo IV is unshackled, free to reign over all ARPGs!


How's the reigning going, fam?

Got 3 chars to level 100 in a month and won't probably ever touch the game again.
On the other side, can't wait for new PoE league and PoE2.
The more I was playing D4, the more I wanted to play PoE.

So, again, how's the reigning going, fam? :)

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