No loot in a loot based ARPG feels bad

its hard to say because idk what you're doing exactly. Maybe not running open layout maps?

I am just running polished scarabs for extra war hoards and always have ornate or /diviners incubator on every piece of gear. Most of the divines seem to come from incubators.

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stalkingjackal wrote:

its hard to say because idk what you're doing exactly. Maybe not running open layout maps?

Normally I don't play Legion since my builds are too slow and not nukey enough to free all of the monsters in time, but aren't more compressed map layouts actually worse for legion? Unlike Expedition, where monsters are spawned more densely, it feels like legion monsters are outright removed if there isn't enough space.

i've been running cemetery mostly...only because i thought i would drop that 5 div card but nope...apparently i need to run 500 maps before i drop one

I guess it feels just bad because we have a league mechanic without any currency loot. While the last 4 leagues provided either free juiced maps or more loot thanks to the league mechanic.

Overall the drops feel pretty much the same as during the Sanctum league and even Lake of Kalandra (minus the missing loot gobs).
EoW and exarch altars are pretty much currency printer and the loot feels much better than Lake, Sentinel and AN tbh.
Hard to compare it entirelywith 3.19 since the league was just additional free map juice.
AN provided similar loot but felt worse with the worse eldritch altars. The league mechanic itself placed a decent amount of loot into the game tho.
The major atlas rework since Sanctum juiced up the loot pretty well since Siege of the Atlas expansion (current patch state and endgame after all)

Everyone who tries to compare the current loot with much older expansion versions of the game is kinda lost anyways, or simply fails to use the current accessible ways to option loot. We play siege of the Atlas after all, not Conquerors of the Atlas,War for the Atlas,Atlas of Worlds or older versions of the game.

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Pizzarugi wrote:

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stalkingjackal wrote:

its hard to say because idk what you're doing exactly. Maybe not running open layout maps?

Normally I don't play Legion since my builds are too slow and not nukey enough to free all of the monsters in time, but aren't more compressed map layouts actually worse for legion? Unlike Expedition, where monsters are spawned more densely, it feels like legion monsters are outright removed if there isn't enough space.

Yeah sorry I didn't phrase it properly. Open layouts are good, like you said.

i just dont get why they cant give us more drops? 2-3 more divine drops wouldnt do anything for me at this point because i am finished with making builds,BUT it would make me feel like i am not just wasting my time running maps for no reason...

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

i just dont get why they cant give us more drops? 2-3 more divine drops wouldnt do anything for me at this point because i am finished with making builds,BUT it would make me feel like i am not just wasting my time running maps for no reason...

Because GGG is way too concerned about mUh EcOnOmIeZ rather than whether the game is fun or not, and regardless of your opinion on it, you must know how much of an impact more divine drops would make on it. They literally gutted Harvest over it as well as wanting people to unironically YOLO exalts.

It's not just about you, it's about the many players who know how to get a ton of drops.

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Pizzarugi wrote:

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

i just dont get why they cant give us more drops? 2-3 more divine drops wouldnt do anything for me at this point because i am finished with making builds,BUT it would make me feel like i am not just wasting my time running maps for no reason...

Because GGG is way too concerned about mUh EcOnOmIeZ rather than whether the game is fun or not, and regardless of your opinion on it, you must know how much of an impact more divine drops would make on it. They literally gutted Harvest over it as well as wanting people to unironically YOLO exalts.

It's not just about you, it's about the many players who know how to get a ton of drops.

know how to ? what more can i do other than to go full MF gear or farm with a 6 man group? i watched a streamer who farmed crimson temple with full MF gear and even he barely gets any drops...they 100% nerfed drops whether ppl want to admit it or not

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

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Pizzarugi wrote:

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

i just dont get why they cant give us more drops? 2-3 more divine drops wouldnt do anything for me at this point because i am finished with making builds,BUT it would make me feel like i am not just wasting my time running maps for no reason...

Because GGG is way too concerned about mUh EcOnOmIeZ rather than whether the game is fun or not, and regardless of your opinion on it, you must know how much of an impact more divine drops would make on it. They literally gutted Harvest over it as well as wanting people to unironically YOLO exalts.

It's not just about you, it's about the many players who know how to get a ton of drops.

know how to ? what more can i do other than to go full MF gear or farm with a 6 man group? i watched a streamer who farmed crimson temple with full MF gear and even he barely gets any drops...they 100% nerfed drops whether ppl want to admit it or not

My dude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foZ2BHIyjmY

Watch.
The.
Video.

It's literally 11 days old, the creator isn't struggling for loot this league. What are they doing so different that you don't understand? Why not watch it and find out?

^my dude, the video is almost 30 mins long...do you have a tldr? also this is bit of a conspiracy theory maybe, but i dont like to follow what streamers do. they ALWAYS seem to have perfect luck in the game...almost like their 'seed' is tampered with so they always win...