Current Minion Survivability Problems... Video of the Problem

You can find my Youtube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@bleakhorizon001

I made minion builds all 3.20 league for path of exile on youtube and for other players who enjoy the game.

I see a big problem with Minion Survivability. After testing minions for 4 months straight and making Builds in 3.20. I see no way of keeping Golems or Zombies alive during Uber Bosses and 20+ Waves of Simulacrum. Sadly, i've had to come up with ways to make them stay alive. All the ways to keep Golems and Zombies alive are WITCH ONLY has well.

***** The ways i've had to keep them alive in 3.20 *****
- Forbidden Flesh & Flame - Liege of the Primordial ( Witch Only ) Resummons Golems after Death in 4 seconds
- Forbidden Flesh & Flame - Elemancer ( Witch Only ) Keeps Golems alive
- Play Summoning Raging Spirits - Easy Fix to playing Minions

***** Things i've noticed testing and building Minions *****
- No amount of talent points or gear/items keep Zombies alive during Uber bosses & Simulacrum
- No amount of talent points keep Golems alive during Uber Bosses & Simulacrum.

+++ The current state of the game is forcing players to use Witch to play Golem builds for end game ++++

+++ Zombies are just broken +++

https://youtu.be/WdIT3RkCy3I - Youtube Video on the Problem

Try resummoning your spectres during an uber, Its delightful.

minions could use a small buff to defenses i guess, physical/spell supression in particular i have found are not easy to come by for them.

Though looking at your golemancer from Sanctum you basically have no defenses for your minions except Indomitable Army which is definitely not enough for uber tier content.

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Try resummoning your spectres during an uber, Its delightful.

minions could use a small buff to defenses i guess, physical/spell supression in particular i have found are not easy to come by for them.

Though looking at your golemancer from Sanctum you basically have no defenses for your minions except Indomitable Army which is definitely not enough for uber tier content.

https://pobb.in/wah1AfFWTYng - This build is a lot like the one you are looking at right now. It can take out Uber bosses because i'm using the " Forbidden Flesh & Flame - Elemancer ( Witch Only ) ". they can't withstand the damage in Simulacrum.

https://youtu.be/otKXAE2BsPA - This video shows my golemancer works for Uber bosses.

*** This is part of my post and why its a problem in the game ***

Elemancer - is a notable Ascendancy passive skill for the Elementalist that increases the maximum number of golems. Summoned golems grants immune to elemental damage . It also grants a chance to avoid elemental ailments per golem summoned, and increased buff effect of your golems per golem summoned. ( WITCH ONLY )

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Bleak_Horizon wrote:

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Try resummoning your spectres during an uber, Its delightful.

minions could use a small buff to defenses i guess, physical/spell supression in particular i have found are not easy to come by for them.

Though looking at your golemancer from Sanctum you basically have no defenses for your minions except Indomitable Army which is definitely not enough for uber tier content.

https://pobb.in/wah1AfFWTYng - This build is a lot like the one you are looking at right now. It can take out Uber bosses because i'm using the " Forbidden Flesh & Flame - Elemancer ( Witch Only ) ". they can't withstand the damage in Simulacrum.

https://youtu.be/otKXAE2BsPA - This video shows my golemancer works for Uber bosses.

*** This is part of my post and why its a problem in the game ***

Yeah but Elemancer only covers elemental, are you only fighting searing exarc?

edit: i don't use PoB i snooped your tree from profile, i have not completed uber on my primary minion build as of yet beyond the old ubers, don't know how to raise my defenses enough for them to survive an occasional hit, no auto-resummon or damage invulnerability stuff for spectres :P (i only tried uber-eater this league)

Elemancer covers a lot of damage on Uber Bosses but the problem comes when stuff starts doing physical damage.

+++ Without Elemancer forbidden flesh and flame i wouldn't be able to do Uber Bosses at all!

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Bleak_Horizon wrote:

Elemancer covers a lot of damage on Uber Bosses but the problem comes when stuff starts doing physical damage.

+++ Without Elemancer forbidden flesh and flame i wouldn't be able to do Uber Bosses at all!

I believe you, We definitely need some more options on defenses for minions.

better control over the pets would help a lot too, being able to have them hug you to move out of stuff or only attack when you say? this function could likely be added while keeping Meatshield/Predator/Feedingfrenzy.

You skipped about half of the defensive options to push your dps.

Thats fine but obviously comes at a cost. You arent even trying and get the expected result.

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You skipped about half of the defensive options to push your dps.

Thats fine but obviously comes at a cost. You arent even trying and get the expected result.

You miss the point of the post Orbaal. If i didn't use the

- Forbidden Flesh & Flame - Liege of the Primordial ( Witch Only ) Resummons Golems after Death in 4 seconds
- Forbidden Flesh & Flame - Elemancer ( Witch Only ) Keeps Golems alive

Minions wouldn't stay alive during the fight.

*** Another fact is that other classes can't use these Forbidden Flesh and Flame making it Witch Only "

No I didnt miss the point.
https://pastebin.com/sUhe8Qau

Same amount of skillpoints, about the same dmg (lost maybe 500k) and I had to sacrifice the Watchers Eye.

But the minions now enjoy 74%/74% block chance and will recover life on block while also sporting about 50% more life compared to your version.

Meaning they are far more tanky and actually stand a chance to leech/regen/recover back to full life, because about 3/4 hits will be blocked and deal zero dmg.


If you want to build around permanent minions, you have to build around Decay Ward. Thats usually good enough without Forbidden Flesh/Flame, regardless of the ascendancy you are playing.

You are currently sacrificing 2 jewel sockets to gain 100% ele dmg reduction when max block for minions would result in 75% dmg reduction across the board - except DoTs. I dont think you need Forbidden Flesh/Flame at all, which would allow you to slot the Watchers Eye back in and also an additional Ghastly Eye with minion accuracy plus chance to poison, which would result in more dmg than you are dealing right now and considerably more tanky minions, standing a chance to win a battle of attrition.

https://youtu.be/WdIT3RkCy3I - Youtube Video on the Problem

I've put in countless hours on minion builds this league, Orbaal. I know what i'm talking about. 4 months of testing and building minion builds.