I have yet to complete a full sanctum...

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Johny_Snow wrote:
I don't know what you consider "1 shot". This is my usual Sanctum clear speed. Obviously I hit guards multiple times



Yeah, you killed those guards in less than a second. Judging by the issues OP is bringing up, I get the feeling their RF build can't compete with your DPS by comparison. Hell I've put 40div into my build and stacking relics that increase guard damage taken, and I still take longer than you to kill them with my mage skeletons. I at least have the advantage that I can put down skeletons and move on while the guards die behind me. I can't imagine what RF builds have to go through.

Just because you and me have it easy in Sanctum doesn't mean everyone else is.
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Last edited by Pizzarugi#6258 on Jan 17, 2023, 2:21:19 AM
My DPS is only 15 million on paper according to PoB, which is pretty average for a melee character and lower than similar *hit everything around you* builds like Occultist Blade Vortex. While RF might have lower DPS than this - fire trap doesn't. The guards usually don't move a lot so fire trapping them should be perfectly fine.
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Johny_Snow wrote:
My DPS is only 15 million on paper according to PoB, which is pretty average for a melee character and lower than similar *hit everything around you* builds like Occultist Blade Vortex. While RF might have lower DPS than this - fire trap doesn't. The guards usually don't move a lot so fire trapping them should be perfectly fine.

That's the thing, your dps is over the threshold of 'kill them before they do anything' and your move speed is above 'can reach them before they can do anything'. Your 15 mil is fine, 8 mil would make no difference, but once you're below the threshold it isn't fine anymore, if you aren't checking that box you better play totems or minions with the exact snooze playstyle I mentioned before or it's fuck you kindly, sir.

That's what's wrong with the league, and what we said will happen pretty much on reveal. The way to play it is not to interact with anything outside of sanctum board, and your build can either do that or it can't.
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If 8 million is the threshold then it is perfectly possible for RF to reach it
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Johny_Snow wrote:
If 8 million is the threshold then it is perfectly possible for RF to reach it

Well that's it, if you're asking for the kind of dps in the upper reaches of a build you're pretty much asking for its aspirational content kind of performance in order to give you a chance with the league mechanic, and how big of a chance it is also wildly varies based on build archetype and skills used.
That's the rotten part, not many leagues were quite this particular, I can see why it isn't exactly a crowd favorite.
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Last edited by raics#7540 on Jan 17, 2023, 4:24:09 AM
Correction: you need this kind of DPS if you don't want to be hit. Right now the Sanctum is a joke to me. I get hit maybe once every 3-4 rooms and this happens because I get bored. You can deal with it reliably even with less DPS
I honestly don't know how to gauge POE DPS anymore.

My hexblast mine saboteur had 5,8 million POB DPS and it was deleting bosses in an instant. Like Searing Exarch without any phase instant. 3 seconds from full to dead. Same with beyond Lycia.

And then I remember playing SST trickster last league that had 8 million POB and struggled to kill guardian of the minotaur in 30 seconds. Minotaur isn't even a pinnacle boss.
It is not strange at all. Bosses like the Searing Exarch allow you to stack all your mines on top of him, therefore inflating your DPS numbers. Meanwhile, during normal gameplay, it is not possible to stack your mines like that under a single mob, so your DPS goes down, probably several times
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Johny_Snow wrote:
Correction: you need this kind of DPS if you don't want to be hit. Right now the Sanctum is a joke to me. I get hit maybe once every 3-4 rooms and this happens because I get bored. You can deal with it reliably even with less DPS

Sure, that's what we all want, not to get hit. I'm sure that's fine, building defense was boring anyway.
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Who said that you can't have defenses and movement speed?

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