By far the worst unique yet, not because it's weak but because it's 100% in the wrong direction

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DarthSki44 wrote:

While I mostly agree with the OP, which lol as a side note, there are a few things to consider.

1. This item is a pinnacle boss drop only. So the percentage of players with access outside trade is relatively small, and presumably the drop rate will be low.

I could be wrong, but according to the reveal on reddit these drop from normal exarch. This coming from a mod on r/pathofexile.

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Bleu42 wrote:

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DarthSki44 wrote:

While I mostly agree with the OP, which lol as a side note, there are a few things to consider.

1. This item is a pinnacle boss drop only. So the percentage of players with access outside trade is relatively small, and presumably the drop rate will be low.

I could be wrong, but according to the reveal on reddit these drop from normal exarch. This coming from a mod on r/pathofexile.

Which is a pinnacle boss, even though it's not an Uber Boss.

Don't think you realize how few people even reach stuff such as elder/shaper/exarch/eater

If all of you guys would switchout "melee" with "greedier" you could actually have a honest discussion why greedy play in poe sucks.

Just imagine you´re dancing inbetween a group of monsters distracting them while your teammembers apply pressure from a distance and the lootgobblomat decides that this shiny item right infront of the greedy player is allocated to someone else. The audacity.
And thats exactly why greedy players need to kill überendbosses to get to their items, well lets say ripping towards the bosses.

There is no benefit to standing next to monsters.
There is no difference between melee ranged and spells.
There is only GREED.
And no amount of buffs/items is going to solve it aslong as this lootgobblomat is in place.

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Sarganis87 wrote:

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gandhar0 wrote:

The limit to one Ancestral buff is actually a slight advantage as you get 1-2 free sockets and press one button less in case you used both totems for boss damage.

You are already limited to one totem on Pinnacle bosses since you can't reliably charge Vaal Warchief.

I think you can use wachief + protector at the same time with multiple totem support.

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Phrazz wrote:

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Bleu42 wrote:

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DarthSki44 wrote:

While I mostly agree with the OP, which lol as a side note, there are a few things to consider.

1. This item is a pinnacle boss drop only. So the percentage of players with access outside trade is relatively small, and presumably the drop rate will be low.

I could be wrong, but according to the reveal on reddit these drop from normal exarch. This coming from a mod on r/pathofexile.

Which is a pinnacle boss, even though it's not an Uber Boss.

Hmm...that's correct as I intended, but perhaps that's not how the community sees it? Bleu specifically said "normal" which seems to convey that only uber versions are considered pinnacle activities now? I would disagree in premise, but maybe that's not what everyone thinks when the see "pinnacle".

Perhaps that's on GGG for using pinnacle, aspirational, and endgame in all varying degrees of meaning when speaking about late game activities.

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Krayken wrote:

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Sarganis87 wrote:

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gandhar0 wrote:

The limit to one Ancestral buff is actually a slight advantage as you get 1-2 free sockets and press one button less in case you used both totems for boss damage.

You are already limited to one totem on Pinnacle bosses since you can't reliably charge Vaal Warchief.

I think you can use wachief + protector at the same time with multiple totem support.

You can use it even without multiple totem support if you use Vaal Warchief.

Yeah these are pretty effing bad

At first I was like oh maybe this just enables a build that was almost but not quite good enough, multi totem jumping jacks with VAW.

But nope, it is probably as OP said, here let's create these absurd niche Nikes that make totems lolOPlol so we can use it to retroactively justify gutting ancestor totems because every melee phys build now recognizes this is by far the biggest DPS increase they'll ever see, and they'll have to double down on it.

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DarthSki44 wrote:

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Phrazz wrote:

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Bleu42 wrote:

I could be wrong, but according to the reveal on reddit these drop from normal exarch. This coming from a mod on r/pathofexile.

Which is a pinnacle boss, even though it's not an Uber Boss.

Hmm...that's correct as I intended, but perhaps that's not how the community sees it? Bleu specifically said "normal" which seems to convey that only uber versions are considered pinnacle activities now? I would disagree in premise, but maybe that's not what everyone thinks when the see "pinnacle".

Perhaps that's on GGG for using pinnacle, aspirational, and endgame in all varying degrees of meaning when speaking about late game activities.

Ah yea if you meant Exarch in general when you said pinnacle that's fine. I just wonder if we're using the term wrong though. By definition of pinnacle, we probably shouldn't use it to refer to 'normal' boss fights when harder versions exist ya? Idk just thinking out loud.