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Gopstop22 wrote:
i dont understand GGG their "fun" is something frustrating and unfun and super rng what i dont get it how can people consider ruthless fun like theres some people who look forward to it i mean tell me how is it fun if you play the gamer for 100 hours and still cant find the support gems you need for your build imagine not getting elemental pene and you fight high resistance AN literally unplayable all what ruthless brings is just frustrating things i dont get it how is it fun
I assume your from SC so you can't comprehend the philosophy, that's okay
Everything is fun if it's not handed to you like in kindergarden. Yes, it's fun, you'll feel like ur achieving something while others cannot even do it\handle it.
It is fun for me to know that last time i died in acts, maybe, 3 years ago, and i'm mostly HCSSF
Yes i won't ever see Shaper, yes i won't farm Elder, yes i wont go delve 666, i won't do all content but that's not where my fun comes from.
I find fun in earning things by effort and blood and sweat
You find fun in having stuff without effort or with no penalty
We are not the same
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shadowthedead wrote:
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Gopstop22 wrote:
i dont understand GGG their "fun" is something frustrating and unfun and super rng what i dont get it how can people consider ruthless fun like theres some people who look forward to it i mean tell me how is it fun if you play the gamer for 100 hours and still cant find the support gems you need for your build imagine not getting elemental pene and you fight high resistance AN literally unplayable all what ruthless brings is just frustrating things i dont get it how is it fun
I assume your from SC so you can't comprehend the philosophy, that's okay
I find fun in earning things by effort and blood and sweat
You find fun in having stuff without effort or with no penalty
We are not the same
elitist people are so weird sometimes but that side
I assume your from HC so you can't comprehend the philosophy, that's okay
you cant get stuff without effort in sc or without penalty either
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Posted byDeviant#8289on Nov 6, 2022, 11:11:39 AM
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Gopstop22 wrote:
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shadowthedead wrote:
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Gopstop22 wrote:
i dont understand GGG their "fun" is something frustrating and unfun and super rng what i dont get it how can people consider ruthless fun like theres some people who look forward to it i mean tell me how is it fun if you play the gamer for 100 hours and still cant find the support gems you need for your build imagine not getting elemental pene and you fight high resistance AN literally unplayable all what ruthless brings is just frustrating things i dont get it how is it fun
I assume your from SC so you can't comprehend the philosophy, that's okay
I find fun in earning things by effort and blood and sweat
You find fun in having stuff without effort or with no penalty
We are not the same
elitist people are so weird sometimes but that side
I assume your from HC so you can't comprehend the philosophy, that's okay
you cant get stuff without effort in sc or without penalty either
Nothing elitist, stop adding this to every argument posted by Hardcore community :D
10% exp is not a penalty really
The main thing that SC requires like 3000% less effort and for some reason SC players are not accepting it
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Posted byshadowthedead#5607on Nov 6, 2022, 11:21:01 AM
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Ivanovv83 wrote:
People nowdays are completely clueless what is difficult and what is tedious and boring.
The fact that the ruthless wont have support gems and 98% of the items does NOT make it difficult. Just the grind will be 20 times more..
No wonder the entry exams of most uni-s are dropping..
You should read news about Ruthless properly. It's not like only reduced loot. You play without movement gems (almost all deleted in Ruthless, only few gems like fliker left, that will let you engage, but not dodge something), no recipe crafts, some currency deleted, influence removed if you change item. So even you farm 20x Ruthless will be way harder than SC (GGG said that you will probably get 1 alch when finish campain, so drop rates are even lower). If average player need 5-10 hours to finish acts, and drop is reduced 20x, will that mean, that you will sit in acts 100-200 hours for "same difficulty"? Of course no, you will go to bosses with low resists, no movement skills, you will have super low dmg without items, support gems and your active gem will be low level (gems exp reduced it Ruthless).
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Posted byAlendert#6227on Nov 6, 2022, 2:30:08 PM
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Denpakei wrote:
- clearly ruthless is for people with "growth mindset".
How boring and small.
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Posted byzyrotheisz#7322on Nov 6, 2022, 3:34:07 PM
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zyrotheisz wrote:
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Denpakei wrote:
- clearly ruthless is for people with "growth mindset".
How boring and small.
You refer to SC?
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10% exp is not a penalty really
The main thing that SC requires like 3000% less effort and for some reason SC players are not accepting it
What do you mean SC requires less effort? Can you give clear examples?
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Posted byfabiopa1n#3518on Nov 6, 2022, 5:05:18 PM
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shadowthedead wrote:
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Gopstop22 wrote:
i dont understand GGG their "fun" is something frustrating and unfun and super rng what i dont get it how can people consider ruthless fun like theres some people who look forward to it i mean tell me how is it fun if you play the gamer for 100 hours and still cant find the support gems you need for your build imagine not getting elemental pene and you fight high resistance AN literally unplayable all what ruthless brings is just frustrating things i dont get it how is it fun
I assume your from SC so you can't comprehend the philosophy, that's okay
Everything is fun if it's not handed to you like in kindergarden. Yes, it's fun, you'll feel like ur achieving something while others cannot even do it\handle it.
It is fun for me to know that last time i died in acts, maybe, 3 years ago, and i'm mostly HCSSF
Yes i won't ever see Shaper, yes i won't farm Elder, yes i wont go delve 666, i won't do all content but that's not where my fun comes from.
I find fun in earning things by effort and blood and sweat
You find fun in having stuff without effort or with no penalty
We are not the same
I'm mostly playing SC and I wanted game to be closer to what ruthless is. You're right it's about mindset but it has nothing to do with being sc or hc player. I see a lot of hc players hating it just as much or more than sc players.
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Posted byDemonikPath#1311on Nov 6, 2022, 8:28:26 PM
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Want ruthless?? Go fight Brutus triple possessed with 40% extra damage and 20% r tra physical as chaos in mayhem on HC SSf
About as ruthless as it gets
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Posted byJradlot21#0486on Nov 6, 2022, 9:35:16 PM
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Jradlot21 wrote:
Want ruthless?? Go fight Brutus triple possessed with 40% extra damage and 20% r tra physical as chaos in mayhem on HC SSf
About as ruthless as it gets
I think Ruthless in act 1 wouldn't be hard at all, but when you get to acts 6+ you will have items without resists and hp, so imagine your character come to a boss with elemental dmg, you have 20-30% less hp than normaly you have and boss deal 2-3x more dmg to you, because you have 25-50% resists instead of 75% + you can't use movement abilities to dodge enemy mechanics and you do absurdly low dmg without support gems, with low level active gems and bad items. 1 mistake and you start again in Ruthless HC SSF.
Don't forget about maps, even low tier will be extremly dangerous. You will have huge elem reductions after Kitava + you have bad items + you can't craft resists for your items and of course super low damage will give monsters a lot of time to hit you.
That is what I expect from this mode.
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Posted byAlendert#6227on Nov 7, 2022, 8:11:39 AM
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