Moderate players don't give a hoot about loot 1st week of launch. Glad zoomer doomers are leaving.

youre pissing backwards, party farmers are getting their loot and getting to craft their shit, its the rest that dont

"

blakeks wrote:

"

You're forced to spend your time running boring safe low red maps trying not to die. If you even think of trying any actual early end-game boss, you're gonna lose hours if you don't one-shot them (and you're not gonna one-shot them)

I know exactly what you mean and i hate it to. But there is a litte workaround that problem. Reach a decent level and stop caring. Level 90 is more then enough to kill all the content with the right gear and its pretty easy to reach. Even with low yellow maps. Then if you whish to push the levels concentrate on this and dont interact with any endgame boss.

I know exactly what you mean and I hate it to. But there is a litte workaround that problem. Reach decent gear and stop caring. 3.5 mil dps is more than enough to kill all content and it's pretty easy to reach....

Adjusted to reflect exactly why most players could care less about streamers crying this league. Brushing aside casuals problems shows you understand what I'm talking about.

"

OneLameDad wrote:

Adjusted to reflect exactly why most players could care less

Unfortunately, statistically, that's untrue.

Unless I suppose if nearly 60% of the entire playerbase also streams?

The league numbers are an accurate reflection of most players, or at least a significant majority.

That said you do you. If you like it, do the damn thing.

rune luthien is at it again.

after his legendary thread "shuttle single players to standard"
here comes his extraordinary "nobody gives a damn about zoomers"
and soon next "if you dont like the way i want this game to be, why dont you
play sth else"
cant believe ggg mods are letting him in the wild like that. bring him home plz.

and dont forget also his "this game should be like a mmo because this game doesnt correspond to my type of game"

"

OneLameDad wrote:

"

blakeks wrote:

"

You're forced to spend your time running boring safe low red maps trying not to die. If you even think of trying any actual early end-game boss, you're gonna lose hours if you don't one-shot them (and you're not gonna one-shot them)

I know exactly what you mean and i hate it to. But there is a litte workaround that problem. Reach a decent level and stop caring. Level 90 is more then enough to kill all the content with the right gear and its pretty easy to reach. Even with low yellow maps. Then if you whish to push the levels concentrate on this and dont interact with any endgame boss.

I know exactly what you mean and I hate it to. But there is a litte workaround that problem. Reach decent gear and stop caring. 3.5 mil dps is more than enough to kill all content and it's pretty easy to reach....

3.5m dps is kinda sketchy 10m+ seems to be the sweet spot (not for uber uber content never tried it) where you still need to learn mechanics but don't spend a long time fighting which increases the chances of you making mistakes

The issue with the adjustments to drop rates with regards to the nerf is that a fair few amount of people playing the game aren't zoomers, they're people with jobs who probably aren't in a position to invest untold amounts of time into a league due to obligations. They might want to play for like an hour a day and do their other stuff.

When you nerf the drop rates, those hours they spend really aren't amounting to much because it's now become disproportionately more difficult for them to basically penny their way to decent items to just steamroll the game. Usually you counter nerfs to drop rates of things by investing more time because eventually you'll win out. . . that can't exactly happen for some people, or it is too much of an ask and they'd rather do something else.

I am not a casual player by any means when I play a game, I tend to dump all of my free time into it because I don't have kids, I have a job at most and my bills. However as someone who has a fair few friends that are on the casual side of things, it's a perspective like this that you kind of understand that things like this screw them harder than anybody else. I know a lot of people who casually play this game to enjoy a league for a few hours a week tops.

Zoomers have untold amounts of time to just powergame, this pushback is not from them, it's from people who can't powergame and this basically makes the time they could invest into the game that much less meaningful. Progression is one of the main reasons people will play a game, when you start kneecapping the progression rates of people who can't just add more time, they will quit. You want an example of this? World of Warcraft. It used to boast 13 million active subscribers, a legendary number. Now it clings to the remaining 1-2 million players it still has tops because shocker, making progressing a pixelated character more of a hassle than it ultimately is worth tends to make people stop playing.

I just am utterly amused you're clinging to the "zoomer" buzzword when in all reality, the people probably most pissed about this change are people who have jobs and are probably in their mid 20s-30s with a family to take care of. As I said, zoomers have untold amounts of time to just play, these changes do not affect them nearly the same as someone who has a very limited amount of time to play daily, i.e someone with an actual job.

"

x7Sanji wrote:

You're having fun with this game in its current state? That is great for you my guy.

But you're wrong, terribly wrong. And you make it look bad. There is a time to think " ay its just reddit being reddit again " this is not one of them. Everyone is quitting and not feeling like playing TWO TO FIVE DAYS IN, a 3 MONTHS league. Can you not tell something is terribly wrong?

Also remember one thing because you seem to be missing the point, what I'm gonna say here can be applied to pretty much EVERY game you're gonna play, be PoE, or LoL, or Idk w/e, like R6, when people ( That have more than 10 hours and should know what they're saying ) are complaining this much, all together at the same time, no its not them being babies Jimmy, it's them being worried for the game they love.

True there is alot wrong with the game ATM like AN and the loot / if you run maps / anything other then heist or legion / static rewards you will be feeling like you get no loot / progress its so bad and not fun.

"

RuneLuthien wrote:

go touch grass zoomers, esp if your a zoomer doomer who grinds like a boomer

You're the 2nd "zoomer hater" I meet this week, and I swear your people are amazing.
For some reason, you need to full clear acts maps everytime, do every sidequest that exists and most important, when you see someone doing in 30s what you do in 2 hours, you definitely feel the need to hate him.

But why the hate tho, nobody hates you for being slow af so why do you hate us for being fast ? What have we done ? :'(

"

jackof8lades wrote:

You let some streamer influence how you feel? why?

Most ppl live vicariously.... watch sports instead of play them, watch life in movies instead of live it. etc. I actually had a freind tell me why do you need to travel...watch the travel channel dude.

TLDR:

No child left behind kid gets left behind in game. Super mad.

Now you cant go fast because he is slow.

Race to the bottom engaged.