botting :(


http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7414/2013041200010.jpg

this is botting or some assist bot for multiboxing, and multiboxing isnt allowed in this game i guess ^^
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logic82 wrote:


Then mule accounts should be banned as well which means you better pay for stash tabs.

Also are you kidding me rich????? You have to gear all those characters too dude, aside form that you still lose the grind if one of those characters dies which is harder to keep them up than one so again I see a 1 sided argument against it with no real understanding of why it is a complex playstyle. i don't mind people have their opinions, but at least have a logical one.


You are attempting to use the support of multi-boxing for muling to defend multi-exploit. That is not logical.
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_wuv_ wrote:
just to be clear, multi-boxing is okay only if you're manually playing each character.
On the one hand, it's true that there is nothing unethical about a person who uses this technique.

On the other hand, this is exactly the crap excuse the ISBoxer cheat crowd is going to use, therefore we need to ban ALL multiboxing (including muling) to prevent them from talking their way out of abuses. No form of multiboxing is required for the play experience, thus none needs to be supported.
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ScrotieMcB wrote:
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_wuv_ wrote:
just to be clear, multi-boxing is okay only if you're manually playing each character.
On the one hand, it's true that there is nothing unethical about a person who uses this technique.

On the other hand, this is exactly the crap excuse the ISBoxer cheat crowd is going to use, therefore we need to ban ALL multiboxing (including muling) to prevent them from talking their way out of abuses.


Punish the many to punish the few? Screw that. If people want to MB, let them. They're not the ones that have hosed the economy anyway. As most can attest, being 2-3x richer than their playtime has allowed would mean... they're still pretty fuckin poor. RMT is the problem (and MBing isn't really linked to that issue).
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b15h09 wrote:
Punish the many to punish the few? Screw that. If people want to MB, let them.
What you really mean is to spare the few, the few who cheat and deserve banishment.

All forms of third-party automation ran on the client computer (to include scripts) and all forms of multiboxing (to include muling) should be bannable. Note that bannable does not mean "GGG must ban you, they have no choice about it"; they should still be able to choose not to. However, a EULA that specifically makes these actions bannable should be put out, we should all agree to it, and then GGG should be able to decide, purely at their own discretion, whether or not to ban you for multiboxing.

Or better yet, just GGG can ban you at any time, without notice or cause, because they feel like it.

The point is that I trust GGG to do the right thing. I don't trust a cheating RMT asshole pointing to a document and saying that GGG can't do anything to him. Although to be honest I'm not a lawyer and I don't know exactly how crap like that works.
When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted.
Multiboxing is legal. Key-cloning while multiboxing is a bannable offense. The majority of multiboxers clone their key strokes to the other clients.
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ScrotieMcB wrote:
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b15h09 wrote:
Punish the many to punish the few? Screw that. If people want to MB, let them.
What you really mean is to spare the few, the few who cheat and deserve banishment.

All forms of third-party automation ran on the client computer (to include scripts) and all forms of multiboxing (to include muling) should be bannable. Note that bannable does not mean "GGG must ban you, they have no choice about it"; they should still be able to choose not to. However, a EULA that specifically makes these actions bannable should be put out, we should all agree to it, and then GGG should be able to decide, purely at their own discretion, whether or not to ban you for multiboxing.

Or better yet, just GGG can ban you at any time, without notice or cause, because they feel like it.

The point is that I trust GGG to do the right thing. I don't trust a cheating RMT asshole pointing to a document and saying that GGG can't do anything to him. Although to be honest I'm not a lawyer and I don't know exactly how crap like that works.


No, what I mean is punish everyone who plays around with multiboxing (in the classical sense, which include muling and boss pumping without automation), to get at the people who use software to pretty much cheat. Do you know why GGG allows it? Pretty sure it's because you can buy MTx stash tabs, and if they didn't allow it, they would be violating their p2w philosophy. I find it quite commendable that they are this principled.

I don't mind people out there are cheating, though. Cheating will always be rampant in games like this. Maphacks and zoomhacks have been used as standard fare in races since at least a month after OB came out. RMT has firm control of the economy. When people use automation software, it annoys me, because I know this to be specifically against what the devs have said, but it has little bearing on the economy or my individual experience. The drop rates play a bigger role in RMT's firm control than the software multiboxers do. However, if someone wants to fire up a few clients to make their gaming experience more rewarding, that's just fine by me.

I agree that a clear EULA to state exactly what is and is not allowable would be great, though. Until then, I won't use maphacks. I won't use zoomhacks. But I'll sure as fuck manually drop 5 alts on a boss and watch a glorious loot pinata. It's fun, it's allowed, and I don't blame anyone for doing it.
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Multiboxing is allowed. Key-cloning while multiboxing is not allowed. The majority of multiboxers use key-cloning.
Last edited by Atraps003#2749 on Jun 21, 2013, 5:50:39 PM
lulz I saw 3 guys in the Ledge doing the exact same thing as you've stated
they weren't even replying to us when we were talking to them
i stood still in the ledge by the wp for 10-15 secs, they joined me at the wp and stood still too, not moving at all. then when i started moving they started moving too and were following me
someone else and I decided to go on questing to kill brutus. "bots" weren't following and they all left the party a few secs later
they might have been multibox'd by someone, but i still found it weird
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logic82 wrote:
That is not botting, you people need to really research and understand the difference between botting and multiboxing. Bots do EVERYTHING for you where as multiboxing nothing is done for you to enhance gameplay. You still need ot be at the keyboard and cannot go afk at all. Running all in the same direction does not mean they are botting they could just be multiboxing. People cry about multiboxing yet do not realize that it is not easy in a game like PoE and you have to have hardware capable of handling all those clients which means you have made a huge money dump to ensure your pc can handle that. There is far more complexity in multiboxing where as there is none in botting. Please get your facts straight before accusing of one thing when it could be something completely different. I personally multibox myself and wont need to once the new patch is implemented for loot to name as I know I will get my loot as a caster. When I have to sit back to ensure I dont get killed I lose a lot of loot to people ninjaing and is the biggest reason I started multiboxing int he first place. Granted they should not be using a program to move all characters at once as that is against the ToS but you can run 5 clients without doing that. I understand they are violating by using a program that moves them all at once but they are not botting is all I am saying, there is a HUGE difference.


Not really much of a difference. Cheating is cheating. If you use a program to clone your keystrokes to multiple instances of the program then you are cheating. Simple as that.

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