Why some people prefer to play SSF ?

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newqqnew91 wrote:

It's like hey I found a build enabling unqiue but most of the time it's not my build therefore I need start a new character and replay the campaign . I heard some people say they hate trading that's why they play SSF then complain on guild chat about not finding the div card dor over 50 maps . Like what the hell ?

if a build enabling unique u don't have to level a new character ofcourse u could if u want to.
and people that like playing ssf can't complain? x'D

tbh the reasons people love playing ssf varies.
My reason is that i have no pressure rushing or doing content i don't like as much as trade leagues.
also finding or crafting gear i need/can use becomes such a great feeling hell even finding 1c uniques that u could for leveling are great to find even better than finding ex/divines.
completing a build in ssf also feels a lot better than in a league where u can just buy everything. no need to trade also means more time to actually play the league.
and also because u can play longer before u get tired of the league tbh.

In current game state you can make most of the builds even in ssf. SSF makes you play game as a whole, not pick a strategy to make most c/hour. If i need timeless jewel i farm legion, if i want to make some OP chest with incusion mod i farm incursion etc. You end up playing most of the content the game has to offer.

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u4UCn5cmk7tFdghP wrote:

It comes down to this: People do not like to feel like other people beat them at the game, in SSF there are no other people just you.

The level of wrong here is epic. You can't beat other people in softcore trade, because no one care about anyone doing anything in softcore trade. HC ssf is miles more competitive then cs trade. While we on the topic from the point of view of HCSSF they "beat" every softcore player by just playing hcssf and not cs trade.

Beating everything in the game in cs trade takes few days if you know what you doing even if you lack skill like i do for example. Sure for people who are newish to the game and do not have too much time, it might not be that easy but these people are unlikely to be competitive.

I started playing SSF for the extra challenges.
I wanted to find out, could I beat the game with just my game knowledge and luck in drops?
It also works wonders to lengthen the time I can spent in PoE per League before getting bored.
Goals take longer to reach, some shortcuts are missing.

Downsides are also present tho.
Crafting can be an absolut horror.
Doubled when you dont know all the smallest details.
And until you get a masters degree in crafting, dont expect really really good items like in trade leagues.
Either because the crafting attempts are limited by a lot, or because you cant buy that one hard to craft piece you are missing.

Overall, I recommend SSF for every PoE Veteran to try it out at least once.
For those who enjoy to play alone most of the time, this game mode is amazing to experience.

Edit.:
But yes, Trading also absolutly sucks in PoE.
And thats the DEVS fault and even intention as they dont get tired of proclaiming.
I just wish I could play SSF WITHOUT Transfer Function to another Trade League and get all the QoL they DONT ADD BECAUSE OF TRADE. =/

Personally, while I enjoy _playing_ Path of Exile a lot, I find that _trading_ severely diminishes that enjoyment. It's not because of "others do it better" or whatever else has been assumed in posts here - I just simply do not enjoy the activity of trading. At all. It feels like tedious busywork to me. And if I want to work, then I do so at my day job - I really do not need to play a game for that.

For that reason, I have always played ARPGs in SSF mode. I did so way before the SSF leagues were introduced - I simply played solo and never traded. Before Path of Exile, I played Torchlight, Titan Quest, Diablo 1 and 2, and many other ARPGs in the same way. When GGG implemented the SSF leagues, I joined one with my next character, because it didn't change a thing about the way I'm playing the game anyways.

I'd like to point out that, in my opinion, people who are making sweeping assumptions about large groups of players are unlikely to come up with any useful assessments. There is no single reason why some people prefer SSF. I can tell you mine, I obviously can't speak for anyone else - but neither can anyone else, imho.

I don't really care about other players or about my progression speed. I do care about having fun. Trading really doesn't feel like fun to me, so I'm not doing it. Obviously that means that it takes me much longer to gather the items for a good build, but that doesn't bother me. I have lots of stash tabs, which I use to plan future builds and store useful items for them. When I complete the set for a given build, I play it. Doing so takes time, but again - I have been playing this game for 8 years, I will be playing for many more. I'm not in a hurry.

Because playing 99% of the time around economy like headless chickens is trash fun for some of us.

Luckyly, joy is sujective.

I tried SSF once, got all needed gear and completed endgame bosses with lazy playing couple hrs a day.

Yet I don't really like, that on SSF you are losing a big portion of excitement and fun when finding something valuable which you can't benefit from, in any way.
Like some valuable item which doesn't fit your build or some very expencive card which you will never get a full deck, etc.

I prefer to play tradeleague but with my own rules - I never rush to buy everything even if i got currency, i prefer to get items myself and only when I can't do it after certain amount of attempts i go for trade. I never rush currency/hour race, its not fun atm. There were leagues when I find mirror and just left it till the end in the inventory cuz I knew if I sell it and buy all i need i will just drop the game in a week.

Also SSF limits you to play only non-unique dependant builds and make your poe atlas the same way all the time (ess and harvest) which also sucks.

I play trade league because it's exactly like SSF but I get to trade every once in a while.

I don't like the player-hostile trade system, so I rarely use it. But I don't get the point behind purposely limiting myself by joining a special league that adds nothing and takes away a feature that might come in handy a few times per league. I don't sit around worrying about prices and shit just because I'm in a trade league; I play the game in a way that I enjoy.

If SSF had some sort of smart-loot system that lowered the need to trade every now and then, I'd probably play it. But it's exactly the same as trade league, except it's like playing with one hand tied behind your back. With the option to untie your hand at any point. So why bother with it in the first place?

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Phrazz wrote:

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newqqnew91 wrote:

Why some people prefer to play SSF ?

The short answer? Because "fun" is subjective and people are different.

This is the only reasonable answer to the question, though.

While I don't "get" the point of SSF, I understand that others do, and they prefer it, for their own personal reasons. More power to them. Play the way that makes you happy.

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judikator wrote:

Also SSF limits you to play only non-unique dependant builds and make your poe atlas the same way all the time (ess and harvest) which also sucks.

It doesn't. I'm playing SSF, my tree is currently skilled for Map sustain, strongboxes, Delve, a bit of Heist for blueprints, and a bit of Betrayal for automatic safehouse completion. I feel completely free to choose my own path.

I also have uniques in my current build. It just takes a little longer to get them.

I play SSF for 3 reasons:

1. I'm a solo player by nature. I love playing by myself with 0 help; even if that means failing miserably. Trading counts as help.

2. I'm 100% against GGG's stance on trade. The whole "we don't want trades to be too easy and fast" is pure bullshit. I don't know what planet the devs are living on, but having an already daunting game, the last thing it needs is constantly being in contact with assholes, and disrupting either your play time or other people's play time.

3. I just don't like dealing with strangers, and the hassle that brings.