Tbh was kind of sad about the minion nerfs at first but now

now i kind of start wondering maybe it's a buff with the minion shield and rings and the +2 helmet it could be even better than it was before. not sure though but i'll league start it probably and see how it goes xd

guess it depends on new gems if there are no new ones that i would like to try minions would be my league starter for sure :)

also the 100 uniques that have been changed wondering about that as well everything is still possible with the lack of information we have so far.
3.26 when?
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satanttin wrote:
now i kind of start wondering maybe it's a buff with the minion shield and rings and the +2 helmet it could be even better than it was before. not sure though but i'll league start it probably and see how it goes xd

guess it depends on new gems if there are no new ones that i would like to try minions would be my league starter for sure :)

also the 100 uniques that have been changed wondering about that as well everything is still possible with the lack of information we have so far.


This is where I am as well. The floor is lower but I suspect they raised the ceiling some as well. Time will tell but I think Guardian minion builds are going to be great and more beefy.
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Nubatron wrote:
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satanttin wrote:
now i kind of start wondering maybe it's a buff with the minion shield and rings and the +2 helmet it could be even better than it was before. not sure though but i'll league start it probably and see how it goes xd

guess it depends on new gems if there are no new ones that i would like to try minions would be my league starter for sure :)

also the 100 uniques that have been changed wondering about that as well everything is still possible with the lack of information we have so far.


This is where I am as well. The floor is lower but I suspect they raised the ceiling some as well. Time will tell but I think Guardian minion builds are going to be great and more beefy.
without the +2 minions on the necro tree and having it for every class then yeah guardian will be a hell of a nice choice :)

and based on the mods we could roll on new items the floor might even be very solid as well:)
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If Guardian and Scion end up being better for minions than a damn Necromancer, well then GGG fucked up badly.

Also I just do not understand direct nerfs to a build only for progression and leveling (especially for one of the few easier entry level builds), which then smooths out with high end crafting and currency.

Super flawed logic imo.
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This is only good if u dont play build with unique helmets like Baron or Holy relic.
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DarthSki44 wrote:
If Guardian and Scion end up being better for minions than a damn Necromancer, well then GGG fucked up badly.



I'd expect guardian for best scaling and traditional zoo necros of all types, Elementalist for Golems again, Scion for anyone who would be a guardian but doesn't want to dump the currency and Necro for any chaos based or potentially minion life based build.

Occultist might be better for the chaos based ones but i haven't looked into that one yet. Many of these are true already though tbh the big shift is general necro probably scion now.
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DarthSki44 wrote:
If Guardian and Scion end up being better for minions than a damn Necromancer, well then GGG fucked up badly.


One of the most popular champion builds right now is a caster and for Berserker it's a wander build.

We've had plenty of this for the last 10 years with people playing spellcasters on marauder in the beta because it is fully intended.
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Scarletsword wrote:
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DarthSki44 wrote:
If Guardian and Scion end up being better for minions than a damn Necromancer, well then GGG fucked up badly.


One of the most popular champion builds right now is a caster and for Berserker it's a wander build.

We've had plenty of this for the last 10 years with people playing spellcasters on marauder in the beta because it is fully intended.


That is absolutely not what I'm saying and I suspect you know it. Sure you can be an Inquisitor and toss fire traps, but you shouldn't be out-classing Saboteur.

That's what this is going to end up being, which is ridiculous. They should have changed away from the Necromancer ascendancy totally if this was the design intention.

Oh well at least we will have the memes. Thanks GGG

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I have to say the Neckromancer on Reddit made me laugh
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Last edited by DarthSki44#6905 on Aug 5, 2022, 10:19:35 AM
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DarthSki44 wrote:

That is absolutely not what I'm saying and I suspect you know it. Sure you can be an Inquisitor and toss fire traps, but you shouldn't be out-classing Saboteur.

That's what this is going to end up being, which is ridiculous. They should have changed away from the Necromancer ascendancy totally if this was the design intention.


You want the obvious choice to be the best one, right?
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Scarletsword wrote:
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DarthSki44 wrote:

That is absolutely not what I'm saying and I suspect you know it. Sure you can be an Inquisitor and toss fire traps, but you shouldn't be out-classing Saboteur.

That's what this is going to end up being, which is ridiculous. They should have changed away from the Necromancer ascendancy totally if this was the design intention.


You want the obvious choice to be the best one, right?


Listen if you dont like Ascendency Specialization as a design philosophy, that's fine, it's just a totally separate conversation imo.

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