Character Balance Changes - Summoners
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I have skipped all the past leagues, as summoners were nerfed further in each of them. Now I see the patch notes, but immediately hit cancel on the download.
POE was a fun game, but it has become so hostile towards casuals, that I just dont see the point of installing it again. I guess, now that POE has my money, its just not important anymore that I can have some fun too. Summoners are the only class I play, I dont have access to mage builds as I never find the items for it, so I have to rely on zombies, golems and skeletons. There was a time when I could not clear all content, but at least red maps. Until this time comes back, I keep staying away from POE. Good Luck with your game. |
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Specifically in regard to Skellie Mages being OP, my standard build cost over 1500 EX... err divines. I got up to enough defenses to handle wave 30 Simulacrums while dying from time to time, and about 20 mil DPS.
Honestly, that is freaking reasonable and not OP. Now I am at 8 mil dps, and cant handle past Wave 25. Skellie Mages got hit from WAY too many angles. If they were intent on doing the overall reduction in strength to Minions on Crit/frenzy etc, +2 level for Necro etc, then they REALLY didnt need to adjust the gems themselves... It was just too much. |
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"Summoners are fine. They're OP in fact."
"LOL" said Archnemesis, "LMAO". "LOL" said Beyond, "LMAO". "LOL" said Wave 21+ Simulacrum, "LMAO". Meanwhile there's a ton of non-summoner builds which can tackle this content for far less investment. And yet summoners are somehow more OP, because players can spend more time than usual running around and avoiding getting killed. Oh yeah, dodging shit, totes OP bro. PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.
Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build! And the winds will cry / and many men will die / and all the waves will bow down / to the Loreley |
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enjoy the foresight of PoE2 :) Summoners non existent or dead from the get go
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My favorite ascendancy was Necro, my favorite minions where specters. I played few years I guess with Crabbies trying and searching for different mobs to use. Now you GGG destroyed Necro and kicked Spectre's dead body. Hope you are having fun when destroy things that people love about your game.
P.S.: there is a game called Albion, which is a hybrid of Ultima Online and Moba. It's economy is completely wrapped around PVP with full loot. Somehow they noticed that a lot of people doing PVE stuff there - building island, leveling crafts, trading, playing farm ... and somehow devs didn't piss into people's face for they loved aspects of game that was not major, but started to add more PVE content, taking care of both fractions of players. Maybe there is something to learn from. |
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So how are summoners enjoying the league so far, now that we're a week in? Do you enjoy losing your minions to 4-mod essence mobs every time you run into one?
PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.
Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build! And the winds will cry / and many men will die / and all the waves will bow down / to the Loreley |
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" SRS summoner here, 2x spectres/AG/7 Zombos Essence monsters never kill anything. Mash the clean
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" Just because you're rich and can afford to pump up your summoner to ridiculous power levels doesn't mean everyone else can. That'd be like me saying melee is fine while I main cyclone builds. PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.
Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build! And the winds will cry / and many men will die / and all the waves will bow down / to the Loreley |
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Im running pretty much the same build but as Guardian.
Im not even using Bone Offering and my minions rarely die. I spent about 300 chaos on my gear, mostly on the cluster jewels, the rest of the stuff either dropped or I crafted it. Its nowhere near as bad people want to make it look like, however the cluster setup made a massive difference and was totally worth it. That said, I havent encountred anything really hard yet. So far good old Shaper is the benchmark and none of the minions came even close to die in that fight. If I was willing to switch Flesh for Bone Offering, my guys should be borderline immortal, but for now I prefer dmg. |
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