Forbidden Flesh and Flame are not fun chase items for SSF and the wrong direction to go

I really like what GGG has done with the new end game and I think SSF is in one of the best spot right now so take this as lightweight criticism from a SSF player.


There are multiple type of chase items in PoE

Some very rare, but still attainable:
- Mageblood -> 3% of players on the SSFSC ladder
- Headhunter -> 3% of players on the SSFSC ladder
- Ashes of the Stars
- Crystallised omniscience


Then there are some that come with a lot of randomness in their rolls, those will most likely not fit your build, but you could start a new char around them:
- Watcher's eye -> 12% of players on the SSFSC ladder
- Cane of kulemak
- Forbidden Shako (although Sacred Grove is a myth)
- Helm enchants

Then there are the stackable items which will take a long time to farm, but still doable:
- Split personality jewels
- Primordial jewels (golems)

Then there are Forbidden Flesh and Flame with a 0% use in SSF.
The reason being the chances of finding a pair in a 3 months span is practically impossible. From what I counted there is about 135 different rolls (without the newly added ones) meaning that if you find a forbidden flame (which are already rare drops) you have 1/135 or 0.74% to get matching pair if you drop a forbidden flesh.


For those reasons, I found the announcements and teasers around those new jewels very lackluster... they make them even more impossible to use for SSF by reducing the odds of getting a pair.


It is one of the very few things that I would consider trade league only at this point and I hope this is not the direction that PoE is going in the future.

my concern about forbidden flesh and flame combo is mainly due to the fact that i love jewels.

the main issue is i dont have enough jewel slots

Poe wasn't and never will be balanced around SSF, as was stated by ggg multiple times, it's just there because some ppl wanted it, not to cater to their needs.

They really need to make a disclaimer everytime you login into a ssf toon.
"This is a self imposed challenge, this game's droprates will never be balanced araound ssf do you still wish to continue?"

fun part is,the op doesnt even have 1 SSF charr

just another "i want more lot for no effort" thread

Yeah these jewels suck. Cool concept but terrible execution. Yea no shit brainiacs in the thread that the game isn't balanced around SSF but as OP mentioned there are other rare items (mb, hh) that are still somewhat present in SSF meanwhile these jewels will never exist in ssf.

Killed 1 exarch and 14 eaters in SSF this league, 0 jewels. The fact that the only possible way for you to get a matching pair is by buying the other one shows how flawed their design is.

Mageblood and HH only have usage because they have secondary acquisition methods, if they were drop only it'd be < 0.1%.

Basically most of the items OP are listing are bullshit in SSF, even farming primordial jewels as mentioned takes a ridiculous length of time for something very tame power wise.

It is sad that they are a trade only drop but this is the type of content GGG can add for boss spammers basically and boss spamming isn't a thing in SSF.

I mean really SSF is about using what you get, you can't get these so don't play around it in anyway :p

Also to loop back round I actually think HH and MB would be better if they were genuinely drop only but as shown in this thread players don't like being told "don't plan around that item" :p

Money is the only answer. Make a petition that ssf players will financially support a decent ssf mode an if the numbers are good ggg might be tempted.

Of course, people will have to agree on what exactly "decent" means.

I am looking forward to the action, i;ve got a solid popcorn reserve and i am not afraid to use it... :P

"

Fray99x wrote:

Poe wasn't and never will be balanced around SSF, as was stated by ggg multiple times, it's just there because some ppl wanted it, not to cater to their needs.

This.

This is exactly why I say SSF is a mode for masochists. There is no gain from handicapping yourself by disabling a fundamental game mechanic. The fact that it's nearly impossible to get a matching pair of eldritch jewels further cements this.

These are basically set items and they have all the drawbacks of set items.