Logout macros

I have never used it because I thought its was not allowed.

But checking old Zizaran videos he sad "Using a logout macro is allowed, as long as you have to press a button to logout yourself".

is this true?
Last bumped on May 5, 2022, 12:38:47 PM
It is true but i'm gonna project my own views here a sec and say you shouldn't use it so its irrelevant :p
careful how you define it. A script that will automatically log you out is not allowed. The script that allows you to assign a single button to log you out is.
I suppose the real point is that GGG is allowing this particular macro, for whatever reasons.

Technically it shouldn't be allowed, but GGG isnt banning for it. 99% of the logouts you see on streams for example are totally automatic. Nobody is pressing anything.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
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just be careful. most logout macros load a com or exe file from the web which will send a packet to the server on keypress, telling it that your client has quit the connection.

the server will acknowledge this and confirm the cancellation to the client which is interpreting it as if the server has quit the connection cause the client doesn't know about the cancellation.

dynamically loading a exe from the web is potentially dangerous, especialy if it's recommended towards poe players to be downloaded. it could easily upload your login credentials to some web host if started and no virus scanner would detect that.

downloading a script that watches the screen and your health to autologout on low health will get you banned.
age and treachery will triumph over youth and skill!
I'm not sure they're devoting any resources to policing this anymore. The payoff at this point is minimal.
yes logout macro is allowed....how else would people play HC?
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DarthSki44 wrote:
I suppose the real point is that GGG is allowing this particular macro, for whatever reasons.

Technically it shouldn't be allowed, but GGG isnt banning for it. 99% of the logouts you see on streams for example are totally automatic. Nobody is pressing anything.


It is allowed because of the wording of the rule. They only allow one server side action per button click. You can automate all the of steps to logout because there is only one server side action, the actual logout command. Everything else is client side.

That's also why a macro that opens the chat window, sends /hideout, and closes the chat window is okay because the chat window is client side.

The automatic logouts are definitely illegal; how they enforce that rule is on GGG. The logout macro is not.

Keep in mind that doesn't really tell the story of how I feel about logging out to avoid things. I honestly think the logout trick is one of the main things that keeps one shots in the game. That and recovery/regeneration being completely out of control. If they didn't have one shots, anyone who knows how to play the game would never die. It also removes any meaningful interactions with hard fights because you are either full life/es or dead.
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Last edited by Nubatron#4333 on May 4, 2022, 12:10:15 PM
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Nubatron wrote:
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DarthSki44 wrote:
I suppose the real point is that GGG is allowing this particular macro, for whatever reasons.

Technically it shouldn't be allowed, but GGG isnt banning for it. 99% of the logouts you see on streams for example are totally automatic. Nobody is pressing anything.


It is allowed because of the wording of the rule. They only allow one server side action per button click. You can automate all the of steps to logout because there is only one server side action, the actual logout command. Everything else is client side.

That's also why a macro that opens the chat window, sends /hideout, and closes the chat window is okay because the chat window is client side.

The automatic logouts are definitely illegal; how they enforce that rule is on GGG. The logout macro is not.

Keep in mind that doesn't really tell the story of how I feel about logging out to avoid things. I honestly think the logout trick is one of the main things that keeps one shots in the game. That and recovery/regeneration being completely out of control. If they didn't have one shots, anyone who knows how to play the game would never die. It also removes any meaningful interactions with hard fights because you are either full life/es or dead.


I dont disagree with what you are saying, but again the majority of the logouts are automatic with no input. This shouldt be acceptable technically, but it's being allowed. Its admittedly a contradiction, but its their game I suppose.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln
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Shagsbeard wrote:
I'm not sure they're devoting any resources to policing this anymore. The payoff at this point is minimal.


as sad as it is, i hope you're right.

because, if you're not, it means they will follow common practices of other gigacorp subs and try to win the war of the clientside with spyware, which would result in me leaving.

they needlessly got into this mess by implementing console tech into the pc client and locking the possible abuse on the client side.

well .. dough, how do you control what virtual device drivers players have installed to allow the simultanious usage of controllers and mouse/keyboard to have the advantages of both input methods with a game that runs with user rights?

dang!

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sorry for the wall of text but even if they give up and let bots roam free, the danger that their desperate attempts to deter bots might hit innocent players is not really making me comfortable.
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