How to NOT be THAT trading <person>
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this is the whole reason I want trade improvements.
I am just tired of being pmd, inviting within .5 seconds to have the invite auto declined. I have had this happen to 10+ex items to. on that front I have also had someone pm for me for a multi-ex item, invite immediately, they respond sec(this part is fine)... then 9 minutes later they pm me nvm, found a much better item for 50% more ex. This guy I ignored immediately because that is a shit tactic, it wasn't an item listed 5 seconds ago that was underpriced, it would have been there minutes later after he decided. |
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" I have multiple encounters with these type of traders you mentioned, I have learnt to just ignore and live with it. But there was 1 particular encounter 1 month ago, that blew my mind, and I still remember it vividly till now This guy wanted to buy a broken harbinger fragment, but I was in delve, halfway through. When I completed the node a minute later, I pm him back "sorry for late reply, was in delve, do you still require <item>?" And he went apeshit crazy on me, saying he dont give a fk what content I'm running, saying I'm just a stranger, why the fk am I pming him such shit, his pm was like 1hr ago and not to boast to him just because I have 30+/40 challengers done I told him back, "wtf? you literally just pm me a min ago not 1hr" and he went apeshit on me again, telling me "WTF? fk you and your parents, called me a kid, typing his sentences in this format QwErTyUiOp to illustrate his point, telling me to grow up and dont bother boasting to him Couldn't be bothered to argue with him, just told him "if you don't need the item anymore, just say so" and straight put him on ignore list. Totally spoilt my whole night, that I just logged out |
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If the item you're selling is not at least "half of exalt" tier, usually does not worth replying back after minutes. You lost the opportunity to sell the item, deal with it.
Cheap items are cheap because they are common, usually the potential buyer finds another similar in next 30 seconds or so. |
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Its worse for the buyer. How many times do players ask to trade and get no response.
To sit through asking 10-20 people to trade and wait a while will take minimum 5 minutes just for that. spam it and it takes 5 seconds. If all players are selling something. I don't care if its even 1c. you invite that players immediately or politely ask them to hold a sec till you can. And if you absolutely cant do either, then just leave it. |
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" You make a valid point and I totally agree, a bit of communication goes a long way when trading. I'd be really sorry if I did what you describe to someone. I've done it before and felt pretty bad, especially if they've blown a portal like you mentioned. I've gone as far as tipping some chaos for wasting a player's time on a trade (not a virtue signal just agreeing with your general sentiment because I know that I came across a little dismissive). Last edited by TommyBoy1987#2208 on Apr 9, 2022, 3:43:02 AM
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"Doesn't it contradict the definition of "being patient" if you rant about people's behaviour in trade? Maybe you should follow your own advice ;) |
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Thats the problem with direct marketing,
customers are very picky and the customer is king its your fault for not smiling enough !!! You could become a manufacturer of specialised items and start delivering to a supermarket, discharge huge amounts of Headhunters for alterationorbs and watch it successfully sell your produce for exalts. Thats the only scenario where everbody is happy, where everbody becomes richer averagely and where trade flourishes. Don´t miss your quotas on producing Headhunters, though ! Ahhh, the glorious supermarkethouse ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drDs-Y5DNH8
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" No. It actually solidifies the point I am making with a suggested recommendation. Waiting at least 30 seconds is was I do, thus following my own policy. Thanks for the input. -Seebeu |
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" This is a great counterpoint that waiting for the seller to respond eats up time that could be spent mapping/questing etc. I am not looking for the end-all answer or magic bullet to this issue, only intention here is to shed a little light on the problem with a lack of courtesy when directly trading. To summarize: 1) Person "A" places the same order to 10 people who have that item 2) Out of the 10 people, 3 people respond. Two within 10-15 sec and the third (x) amount of time later 3) The first person to respond gets the "invite" click and trade is completed 4) The second person is kindly informed, "Sorry, I have bought the item already." Additionally, that person is not invited thus not raising false hopes 5) The third person, while late for reasons that are too numerous to mention, is also responded to as in step 4. Again, it's about communication between parties. As in my original post, "I don't care if you spammed 15 people, if YOU ACCEPT my INVITE ..." , yada yada :) It's like the example mentioned below your response by Lachdanan about manufacturing "headhunters" for "alterations." That's great, first of all, that RNG has allowed this to happen as I've played this game since late 2017 and never owned a headhunter, but if I wanted to buy one of those for an alteration, I would hope the "store owner" would send me an invite. However, if the store own is "out of stock" then I would hope the own would let me know. Again, communication between parties. Thanks -Seebeu Last edited by Seebeu#0209 on Apr 9, 2022, 10:30:32 AM
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Well, you´re the one who wanted to discuss other means of trading.
Don´t complain about me communicating to you that those are unlikely to fit the productionline. To summarize: 1) i fail those because i only whisper one person and wait a minute virtual items aren´t really Just-in-time deals. 2) That sounds complicated to argue with 10 people about a chaos 3) or the second person, maybe he has a more original name. 4) unlikely to happen if you trade with a mass broker who tries to maximise his income at the end of a league 5) Why didn´t you tell that to number 10 ? Like mentioned, direct marketing is complicated, you don´t have to stop communication once you receive what you want, the goal of this direct marketing is to create bonds, map together maybe even chat together. The main problem are bots that prefere quick movement of goods and humans that think they cant map it without someone elses orbs. Let me communicate it to you once more, different system different up/downsides. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drDs-Y5DNH8
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