PoE punishes player curiosity

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Lower your standards.

Not only can you beat this game in pretty "crappy" gear, you can run maps as well.

That was good :)

It's an RPG. Why the heck would you want awesome gear?!? You gotta be crazy to do so... Wait. There's a rumour it's actually an ARPG, you know, the kind of game that you change gear every hour if not more often? Pff. Even less reasons to want awesome gear.

Conclusion: deal with it.

Let me rephrase then, lower your standards for what's necessary. Uber items are always hard to find, thus expensive.

If he needs somewhere between 3 and 10 exalts for an upgrade, he already has amazing gear. This is simply the gear curve, the better your stuff is, the harder and/or more expensive the next one is.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Let me rephrase then, lower your standards for what's necessary. Uber items are always hard to find, thus expensive.

If he needs somewhere between 3 and 10 exalts for an upgrade, he already has amazing gear. This is simply the gear curve, the better your stuff is, the harder and/or more expensive the next one is.

Its true, lategame content IS available for ~1 gcp per item or less. With 1 gcp per slot (10 gcp total, 2 exalt), I could gear out a genericly OP build (spork totems, LA, etc) (ignoring the gems) to be successful in reasonably high level maps, lvl 70 minimum.

More than that is making yourself stronger so you farm faster/get better items (IIQ+IIR)/have less to fear from those maps (Would need to be rerolling things which are possibly dangerous)

SLA3YER, tbh, you are kinda being misleading in your statements

Unless you are playing the OP LA/FP/EK/summoner/spark totem path of life node based builds, its not possible to play in end game maps without significant investment in gear.

You also need 2.3k HP (at complete minimum) for any build. You also need capped resists at 75%. Getting 2.3k HP often means that you need +max HP on at least half of your gear

If you are melee, you need 4k+ armor (at complete minimum). Those 2 things are not easy to account for.

What the OP is saying is 100% correct, unless you go the few OP builds (which I can fit on my hand), what ofclouds is saying is completely correct.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Let me rephrase then, lower your standards for what's necessary. Uber items are always hard to find, thus expensive.

If he needs somewhere between 3 and 10 exalts for an upgrade, he already has amazing gear. This is simply the gear curve, the better your stuff is, the harder and/or more expensive the next one is.

You can get by with 'decent' gear if you play a few good builds, if you try something else you need 'indecent' gear, and quite a lot of skill combinations no grade of indecency in gear can save. OP is quite right about that one, if you cherrypick skills, use the best combos and stack auras the game is easy, if you try to role-play it you crash 'n burn, no shame in slapping a skeleton totem on your pure-blooded 2H marauder they tell you.

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UnderOmerta wrote:

Enjoy no life leech/life on hit when mobs move faster and hit harder.

Bubbling flasks FTW

Yes, you're right, flasks are a great substitute for life leech, especially on no and half regen maps. You're a genius.

Like I said, you wear nothing more than 4 links, we'll load up a Temple map, and we'll see how fast you clear the map. Good luck.

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UnderOmerta wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

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UnderOmerta wrote:

Enjoy no life leech/life on hit when mobs move faster and hit harder.

Bubbling flasks FTW

Yes, you're right, flasks are a great substitute for life leech, especially on no and half regen maps. You're a genius.

Like I said, you wear nothing more than 4 links, we'll load up a Temple map, and we'll see how fast you clear the map. Good luck.

You know that no regen maps don't effect flasks since flasks are recovery?

You know that life leach is not effected by no regen on maps as it is also considered recovery and not regen?

You know that seething flasks instant heal you even on the smothering mod maps?

You know that life leach is also punished by the 50% reduction in recovery on smothering maps?


While I agree with some of the things said in this thread... the game is not very conducive to trying to play strange builds and experimenting in the late game, I find it funny that you have no idea about how the map mods work when using them to try to support your argument.

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CarebearKiller wrote:

You know that no regen maps don't effect flasks since flasks are recovery?

Yes, I know you can potion on no regen maps. Because I've run those maps.

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CarebearKiller wrote:

You know that life regen is not effected by no regen on maps as it is also considered recovery and not regen?

No, you get no life regen on no regen maps. You either have to leech or use potions. Because I've run those maps.

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CarebearKiller wrote:

You know that seething flasks instant heal you even on the smothering mod maps?

Yes, see above.

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CarebearKiller wrote:

You know that life leach is also punished by the 50% reduction in recovery on smothering maps?

Yes, and?

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CarebearKiller wrote:

While I agree with some of the things said in this thread... the game is not very conducive to trying to play strange builds and experimenting in the late game, I find it funny that you have no idea about how the map mods work when using them to try to support your argument.

I can almost guarantee you I've run more no/half regen maps than you have.

That's why I KNOW potions are not a substitute for leech/life on hit. If you think so, be my guest to come prove me wrong too. Free no regen Temple map for you to try your no life leech, 4l gear on. Step up and put your money where your mouth is. I even mazed it for you.

I don't use BM, so yeah sure. When I get on ill gladly run your map. By the way, pirate hat against temple piety prevents dmg spikes.

Excellent, PM me your IGN and be sure to link me your gear that you're using for the maps. Nothing can be over 4l or cost more than an exalted, since you claim that you don't need high end gear to run endgame maps.

Fair?