The sad truth about minion builds

lol why 1-2 viable gems make ALL or MOST minions gems as viable?

spectres? zomb? melee minions? etc? dead! or viable with EXTREME high budget... lol with same logic MELEE 100% viable and need nerf ASAP!

HEY NERF MORE MELEE BCS 1-2 GEMS VIABLE WITH CRAZY BUDGET! lol such logic...

tell me how many spectre or zombi or skele was in recent ziz race? how many they took N1 place in ziz race? viable? lol

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TreeOfDead wrote:

tell me how many spectre or zombi or skele was in recent ziz race? how many they took N1 place in ziz race? viable? lol

Dunno if that event should ever be used as an argument for anything except that the game would still technically be playable even if they souped it up like that and made it SSF-only. And that's about as useless of an argument as it gets because they'll never do it.

Maybe you can't do absolutely everything that the game offers, but if we go by that metric, how many builds out of everything that makes sense are viable? 0.1%, or maybe 0.2%? If minions have 3 'viable' builds out of 50, that's already way above the baseline.

Skeletons, animate weapon, absolution all dps monster builds if geared correctly.

Zombies suck, spectres suck, SRS omegasuck, get over it.

There are two viable builds right now when it comes to at least average clearspeed and decent endgame bossing - spiders and skeleton mages.

99% of the builds are exploiting exactly the same gear & tree setup, doesn't matter which build you choose from the forums, or from any youtube streamer - if you play one of those build, you will be playing almost exactly the same build as everyone else, maybe you pick up 2-3 different skill nodes from the tree, but that's it..

The rest of the tree is mandatory and exactly the same as every other build out there.

Without the same jewels and, for example, Fleshcraft - the build is not going to work.

It's obvious that without these kind of restricting "build hacks" like fleshcraft and specific jewels - the minions builds are heavily underpowered by themselves, otherwise players would've got much greater flexibility, with more power being shifted to the gems, for example..

At trier 10 maps I start feel very weak. PoE is no longer fun, but it's no problem: Lost Ark starts soon and I will quit PoE.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

Do golemancers count as summoners? Cause late game is still doable with them

I wouldn't call 30million dps golemancers as "still doable". They are blasting bosses. Plus golemancers are extremely tanky by nature.

You're all off topic. He's trying to do an Arakaali without a Squire

So his spiders are 3 socket :S.

Considering I get questionnable OSes with 5200 hp grace/deter/banner I guess that summoners are not that good atm for mapping. However it is easy mode 4-5M+ dps so it is imho not that bad for bossing.

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TreeOfDead wrote:

lol why 1-2 viable gems make ALL or MOST minions gems as viable?

spectres? zomb? melee minions? etc? dead! or viable with EXTREME high budget... lol with same logic MELEE 100% viable and need nerf ASAP!

HEY NERF MORE MELEE BCS 1-2 GEMS VIABLE WITH CRAZY BUDGET! lol such logic...

tell me how many spectre or zombi or skele was in recent ziz race? how many they took N1 place in ziz race? viable? lol

You're insane dude. Your post is barely coherant. Minions are one of the most diversified, powerful and viable archetype and have been for probably at least 2 years. In fact, people are scared some builds are going to get nerfed next league.

Last league I saw like 7-8 at least different types of minion builds, ranging from league starter low budget, to very high end, very high budget, all able to demolish all content. Minions have been crushing since Blight League as far as I can tell and really is one of the most complete archetype in the game right now. Ranging from easy to build and play, to very complicated and expensive, depending on the type of skills used.

Also, skeleton mages is the 2nd most played build in the top x, right now on POE Ninja for Archnemesis league.

https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds

Zombies, and spectres were both builds that were crushing last league, although I am less sure about spectres, I know zombies was for sure.

As for Ziz's race, I don't know, nor care about that. If it's like the past different races, the top builds being played there, weren't builds that are commonly played in normal leagues. As far as I know the builds being played in that race are far from being the only viable builds, or probably even the top builds, so I wouldn't care too much about that.

Come on man.

So bet searing exarch and World Eater, with my eyes closed, thanks summon skellys! I know you're literal dogshit according to people here but you're doing great!

All jokes aside idk wtf any of you are talking about. Specters/Zombies might not be top tier, skeletons and golems are still viable if not good. Skeletons I will state is amazing.

Clearing T16s, clearing elder/shaper guardians, clearing dellerium, etc. But ya, minions are garbage, go play static strike!