The sad truth about minion builds

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lupasvasile wrote:

Like it or not, summoners are just good league starters now, and that's it.

its not even that good... no1 rush to maps as summoner... no1 played on zyz race as summoner and they not even good
there SOOOOO many better skills as leagu starters so compared to summoners its unreal even close

In SSFHC all the clears were detonate dead. Because doubling the life of mobs leaves 99.9% of builds in the dust. The only one that isn't trash now is detonate dead because its damage is the life of the dead mob.

The only minion class I have an issue with playing as primary damage are specters. They are great for supporting other minions but as primary, they have been hurting after several rounds of nerfs over the past few leagues.

Since the last big update, I've done completed multiple T16 maps (rare, not corrupted) with a summon reaper build, a skeleton build, a baron zombie build, carrion golem build and my spider HOP build. I don't have high-end gear and I'm generally a mediocre player.

Take with an appropriately-sized grain of salt and call me in the ... well, never.

Do golemancers count as summoners? Cause late game is still doable with them

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Izrakhan wrote:

In SSFHC all the clears were detonate dead. Because doubling the life of mobs leaves 99.9% of builds in the dust. The only one that isn't trash now is detonate dead because its damage is the life of the dead mob.

DD is so useful in delve omggg. Cyclone gladiator running cwc dd to clean up messes :P

Melee phys dmg is the highest dmg gem for spiders

Weird, I am in T15 reds with Summon skellies? But yea I guess minions are crap and totally garbage and shouldn't ever be used, better off using glacial hammer.

I don't know what everyone's saying. Skeleton Mages and Carrion Golems were great last league, and as I am seeing, are godly this league as well. Both to start, and end game. They basically tear on all content. Easiest build I've played, except maybe 3.13 Toxic Rain.

Day 3 of the league done - I have done several Maven Invitations, the Exarch, the Eater of Worlds, Shaper, Elder, Uber-Elder, got 3 Voidstones, got 100% atlas completion...

One of the best leaguestarters I´ve had so far, I am farming from day 4 for my next League-ender and this is all thanks to the power of minions. But sure... guess they are trash then.

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DeepAlchemist wrote:

I don't know what everyone's saying. Skeleton Mages and Carrion Golems were great last league, and as I am seeing, are godly this league as well. Both to start, and end game. They basically tear on all content. Easiest build I've played, except maybe 3.13 Toxic Rain.

It's funny, but I was thinking the same thing. I was like "What is this guy smoking? Skeleton Mages are killing it this league!!". While I only just made it to approaching maps due to a late start, a few of my friends are playing Skele mages and are doing T16 maps with no problem at all, and that weapon that he's showing isn't even in the builds!!......

The only explanation is that this guy is talking about mele skele builds or some other type of minion combo etc...