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I spend all week using up my saved up silver coins in Standard (around 15.000) to see if I could get a Fated Connections and didn't get any.
And yes I think I spend like 50-100 coins per league, shows how hard I cared for Prophecy. It was also the first league I completely skipped, so I never had any attachment to anything Prophecy. I say good riddance.
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Posted byleto2626#2588on Jan 29, 2022, 10:36:20 AM
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That's a horrible reason. You should never box yourself into a corner where your only item that you are trying to 6L is the one you are wearing. You should always have a 5L Backup somewhere, which isn't hard at all with our community and drop rates.
Given the community cost for the prophecy, it definitely wasn't worth it in most cases. Atm, it's 4 Ex, which is over 2900 Fusing. If on average you need that consistently, there's something wrong with how you're linking, and should have just done the 6L Bench recipe for 1500 Fuse.
I have averaged 7 6L per league for the last 7 leagues, and never went over 800 Fuses.
Did you even read what i said? Of course i had a 5l backup. But theres a difference early in a league between taking the risk to get your 6 link after 4k fusings versus 1500 fusings. And that prophecy is to guarantee a 6l at a time you don't have the 1500 fusings recipe yet. Please read.
If my budget is around 1500 fusings im not going to risk linking myself. One day you'll be unlucky and it'll take you 4k fusings and youll end up with your first 6l of a league 2 days later than you should, which sucks bad.
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Posted byKrayken#1299on Jan 29, 2022, 11:07:00 AM
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Yeah... they need to make that 6 link crafting recipe a *LOT* easier to locate.
I've only stumbled - quite literally - upon it three times since they shoved it into Delve.
Unless you're a delve farmer it's pointless to bother with delve - except to get the crafting recipes.
This 'forced' style of game play needs to be redone.
Patch Notes 3.15:
Fixed a bug where players believed the game was playable. This has been corrected and made retroactive.
Patch Notes 3.19:
Fixed a bug where players adapted to 3.15. This bug cannot be corrected, so we have implemented a 90% reduction in item access as a punishment.
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Posted byBlaqWolf#1151on Jan 29, 2022, 11:21:47 AM
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Yeah... they need to make that 6 link crafting recipe a *LOT* easier to locate.
I've only stumbled - quite literally - upon it three times since they shoved it into Delve.
Unless you're a delve farmer it's pointless to bother with delve - except to get the crafting recipes.
This 'forced' style of game play needs to be redone.
They did, it is no longer in Delve, it is Maps (Summit iirc)
~ Please separate the PoE1 and PoE2 forums.
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Posted byDoubleU#7266on Jan 29, 2022, 1:16:10 PM
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Yeah... they need to make that 6 link crafting recipe a *LOT* easier to locate.
I've only stumbled - quite literally - upon it three times since they shoved it into Delve.
Unless you're a delve farmer it's pointless to bother with delve - except to get the crafting recipes.
This 'forced' style of game play needs to be redone.
your crafting bench has a section for 'undiscovered' recipes. it tells you EXACTLY where to find them all now.
and, as above, these arent in delve anymore, theyre in maps.
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Posted byThror2k5#7154on Jan 29, 2022, 1:29:16 PM
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rekikyo wrote:
That's a horrible reason. You should never box yourself into a corner where your only item that you are trying to 6L is the one you are wearing. You should always have a 5L Backup somewhere, which isn't hard at all with our community and drop rates.
Given the community cost for the prophecy, it definitely wasn't worth it in most cases. Atm, it's 4 Ex, which is over 2900 Fusing. If on average you need that consistently, there's something wrong with how you're linking, and should have just done the 6L Bench recipe for 1500 Fuse.
I have averaged 7 6L per league for the last 7 leagues, and never went over 800 Fuses.
Did you even read what i said? Of course i had a 5l backup. But theres a difference early in a league between taking the risk to get your 6 link after 4k fusings versus 1500 fusings. And that prophecy is to guarantee a 6l at a time you don't have the 1500 fusings recipe yet. Please read.
If my budget is around 1500 fusings im not going to risk linking myself. One day you'll be unlucky and it'll take you 4k fusings and youll end up with your first 6l of a league 2 days later than you should, which sucks bad.
Yeah. Because a Just starting out can afford a 5-7 Ex Fated Connection, and absolutely needs it instead of a 10-20c 6L Unique that could do the job until later.
Also, what you said was that you literally were risking trying to get a 6L on your main chest. Now you're just trying to save a little face.
Fated has NEVER favored early league for anyone, either in proc rate or in third party sale.
I always have a 6L day 1, because I will buy a cheap one (My mainstay has been either Icetomb or Mantle of Flame every single league, or a Zahndesack Cassock. All only cost around 10-20c early league and do quite a bit).
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Posted byrekikyo#7718on Jan 29, 2022, 4:53:59 PM
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Will miss this prophercy - always had bad luck with rolling 6L with fusings.
The 1500 fusing recipe was always more pricy than the prophercy. Because people needed to make it cheaper to be able to sell it, otherwise everybody would use the recipe instead.
Additionally if the fusing chance is 1/1500 for 6L then you need to use 3500 fusings for 90% chance of success and around 7000 for 99% chance.
1500 is at around 60% chance by itself, but its worth mentioning that quality of item increase the chance for 6L.
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Posted byherflik#4390on Jan 29, 2022, 6:00:18 PM
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Yet another "streamers have better RNG!" person...
Dude, there is 6L recipe, cost 1.5k fuses.
Yep. Because streamers can 6L with 1-2 of fusings, maybe with 3 if they are "unlucky" depending on how much money GGG invested into the streamer.
Sure I have recipe but when you have 30Q armour, I am expecting to spend less than 1500 of fusings to make 6L. So when you already spent 1500k without success what's your plan? To accumulate 1500 orbs of fusings and use recipe or apply the orb directly on the chest? Or you suggest to ignore the quality right from the begining and use craftbench? If so, why the hell quality doesn't affect my chest or this mechanics introduced only for the streamers?
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Posted bycursorTarget#1174on Jan 29, 2022, 7:05:22 PM
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Will miss this prophercy - always had bad luck with rolling 6L with fusings.
The 1500 fusing recipe was always more pricy than the prophercy. Because people needed to make it cheaper to be able to sell it, otherwise everybody would use the recipe instead.
Additionally if the fusing chance is 1/1500 for 6L then you need to use 3500 fusings for 90% chance of success and around 7000 for 99% chance.
1500 is at around 60% chance by itself, but its worth mentioning that quality of item increase the chance for 6L.
1) The Prophecy Price has always been about DOUBLE the cost of the Fusing Prophecy, because people pay for convenience and access to the 6L Recipe has always been elusive (most people don't even know where it is because they don't look at those gray windows; some of the people here even admitted they don't know by still calling it Delve). Summit isn't a cheap nor early map, so people definitely don't all have it done.
2) The odds base at 20% is 1 in 1200. The odds at 30% is 1 in 720. Your numbers are fabricated and wrong, based on the emotions of people always scared to complete 6L.
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Posted byrekikyo#7718on Jan 29, 2022, 7:08:59 PM
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rekikyo wrote:
Yeah. Because a Just starting out can afford a 5-7 Ex Fated Connection, and absolutely needs it instead of a 10-20c 6L Unique that could do the job until later.
Also, what you said was that you literally were risking trying to get a 6L on your main chest. Now you're just trying to save a little face.
Fated has NEVER favored early league for anyone, either in proc rate or in third party sale.
I always have a 6L day 1, because I will buy a cheap one (My mainstay has been either Icetomb or Mantle of Flame every single league, or a Zahndesack Cassock. All only cost around 10-20c early league and do quite a bit).
Are you serious? What if your build requires a unique? Are good 6l uniques only 10-20c? Trying to save face? I literally said i did the mistake in TALISMAN league. Do you know how many leagues ago was that? About 20 leagues ago.
And BTW that prophecy is almost always exactly worth 1500 fusings. How the hell is that a bad deal?
What the hell is wrong with you? Peoples say they liked and used the damn prophecy and you have some sort of pathetic crusade to say "no you're wrong you shouldn't like that prophecy. It sucks! Listen to me!!!".
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Posted byKrayken#1299on Jan 29, 2022, 8:08:38 PM
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