So if you can't defeat the 4 end game bosses for voidstone...

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Sitzura wrote:
Yeah early league players are screwed, no sextants for them. I don't know why GGG thinks its a good idea.

you will get atlas passive points easier, ant favored system comes in earlier i believe, so overall its actually a buff for casuals that never got to awakening 8
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leto2626 wrote:
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alex_disp wrote:
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leto2626 wrote:
Pretty sure you actually never even attempted the fight talking like this. And if you did, it's even worse. Stop being the unsupportive elitist.

You should stop assuming things out of nowhere. I killed Maven many times and memory game was the least of problems, compared to complete Life regeneration disable from some of her hits, or that tohou-like arena-wide projectile spam. You're saying that evading her attacks is easier than remembering 6 flashing sectors? My condolenses then.


And I said stop the elitism and you continued, point proven man. You didn't even read my whole reply, as your reply just confirms the whole thing I wrote. You sound like my brother-in-law, and I avoid him like the plague, there is no way to interact with that guy.

I read it and agree that there's different type of memory involved, but that doesn't change the point that it's easy. Can't pass Maven game - GIT GUD, mate. Stop pitying yourself and try harder.
That's what this game all about.
Last edited by alex_disp#4958 on Feb 1, 2022, 7:21:37 AM
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Walkiry wrote:
Honestly, I think the reason so many people can't do the Maven is because the fight is such a clusterfuck of monochrome visual spam that it's just completely unfun to learn. Hence, most of us never do it. Hence, it's hard.

Shaper has attention checks, arena management mechanics, and quick kill skills, and it's not a fight you hear people complain about anywhere near as much. It's usually pretty clear when you screw up, and generally not difficult to figure out why.

With Maven you hit the dirt (because her one-shot mechanics are substantially harder than Sirus'), and wonder which of the same-colored beams/balls/things did what to you that you died so quickly.

On top of that the memory game and spinning beams force you to visit the entirety of the arena you've had to manage until that point (fish memory aside), which is a very punishing mechanic that'll nail you for errors that happened quite a while ago in the fight. In most other fights, errors punish you relatively fast, which ironically feels much fairer.

Sirus had several iterations of changes. The idiotic storms have been changed to the point that now they actively move away from you as you transition between phases. Maven's going to need some serious looking at and get a similar treatment or it's going to have an even lower participation rate than Sirus. Even getting to her is more of a chore than Sirus is.

On the other hand, with Awakened gems gated behind her, I expect the Writs to sell for some serious cash, since the people who have mastered the fight are going to make a killing with them. Maven-exclusive awakened gems will sell 2-5x their current prices (totally random prediction based on nothing but my gut feeling).

I don't understand why they removed the Awakened gems from Sirus tbh. They could have added them to the Maven and left Sirus and the conquerors as is. If Sirus is easier to get gems from, the price of the fragments will reflect it in the open market anyway so it'll balance out.


well said

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