so when Talismans and Tormented Spirits will be removed? its alrdy time for it...

I really hope the reason behind removing it wasn't because people complained about being scammed because they didn't pay attention to their trades and traded for the wrong prophecy or for the wrong version of an item. Busts my nuts when people cave in to making their game "safe" for stupid people.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

I really hope the reason behind removing it wasn't because people complained about being scammed because they didn't pay attention to their trades and traded for the wrong prophecy or for the wrong version of an item. Busts my nuts when people cave in to making their game "safe" for stupid people.

GGG could add diff color or add inflation or someth else to make it ez see upg and non upg uniq

Honestly prophecy is the least bloaty of the bloat, go nuts, remove most of it. Delve is the only thing mechanically worth saving but could use a whole content rework. Kill all other leagues and the atlas and replace the atlas with a delve system and we'll finally have a good endgame

I would've rather seen prophecies becoming a lot more rare and removing the useless ones.

Talisman was good for a little while when they buffed them. Now they are ssf leveling material at most.

Torment is still fine and makes for fun surprises.

Prophecy and torment have their niche with their ups and downs.

Now talismans, that's just trash.

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j33bus wrote:

Honestly prophecy is the least bloaty of the bloat, go nuts, remove most of it. Delve is the only thing mechanically worth saving but could use a whole content rework. Kill all other leagues and the atlas and replace the atlas with a delve system and we'll finally have a good endgame

don't you mean , "me and 1% of all the players will finally have a good endgame" ?

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Vendetta wrote:

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j33bus wrote:

Honestly prophecy is the least bloaty of the bloat, go nuts, remove most of it. Delve is the only thing mechanically worth saving but could use a whole content rework. Kill all other leagues and the atlas and replace the atlas with a delve system and we'll finally have a good endgame

don't you mean , "me and 1% of all the players will finally have a good endgame" ?

That's the thing, the more they remove "bloat", the more risk of alienating a certain part of the player base. As an example, they could remove Delve from the game and I wouldn't even notice. Alternatively, if they made it the focus of end game while also removing other parts of the current end game, as suggested above, I would be less than thrilled. But clearly some people would be happy. 1%? I don't know. I wouldn't presume to guess the proportion.

The endless delve event they did was one of the most boring events they've ever run for me. That being the end game would be excruciating to me.


But again, I would rather they didn't remove much anything and just changed how players interacted with it.

For all the people wishing for the game to remove bloat, my suggestion is be careful, because you don't know what GGG might deem as bloat. Things you enjoy could be next on the chopping block.

twice enchanted? trash to treasure? fated connections? frogs and tempests? People use these things 24/7, but those garbage talismans are still in-game

I hope they get rid of Alva and her mechanic. Boring!

But Talisman first, you see them drop on the ground and you don't bother looking at them you already know it will be bad, like all the rares that drop they're not worth your time.

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Nubatron wrote:

I personally don't understand the push to remove things that are completely avoidable and easily skipped. If you don't like it, skip it. Prophecy is one of the easiest things in the game to ignore. If you don't want prophecies, don't click the seek prophecy on Navali. That's more true now that you don't even have to worry about recipes.

Every time someone says to remove useless things in the game, they mean useless or "Bloat" for them.

I'm sure the bloat culling will eventually remove enough things that everyone is impacted and loses something they like.

Couldn't agree more. For me prophecies are absolutely boring and useless mechanics even though apparently you can make some good money with bulk selling prophecies like Math of Path did in his latest videos. But either way few clicks in my loot filter and I will never see a single prophecy or Silver Coin drop again.

If anything there are mechanics that are much more 'in your face' like Syndicate members chasing you all over the map or Einhar following you like a creepy stalker. Navali is definitely not one of them.